What gasoline to fill the Lada X-Ray engine with

Which gasoline to choose AI92 or AI95? This question worries every car owner. If we talk about AvtoVAZ’s new product, the Lada Vesta, it is worth noting that the manufacturer recommends using AI95 gasoline. To save money, many people start using cheaper AI92 fuel. And some, on the contrary, spare no expense and fill the tank with AI98 or AI 98G-drive..

In the operating manual Lada Vesta manufacturer

indicated that only unleaded gasoline “Premium Euro-95 GOST R 51866” or “AI-95-K5 GOST 32513-20013” is allowed for use. If necessary, it is allowed to use gasoline with an octane number of at least 92.

Autoreview tests

The online magazine “Autoreview” tried to determine which gasoline is best to put into a car tank. The study involved Renault Sandero and Hyundai Solaris, which were refueled in turn with AI92 and AI95 gasoline. As a result of the tests, experts came to the conclusion that a car with more expensive fuel (AI95) accelerates better and is more economical.

Owners of older VAZ cars made similar conclusions. Based on the survey results, the majority of drivers noticed that when using AI95 gasoline after AI92, the car became a little more dynamic, and fuel consumption decreased.

There are studies that showed no difference between fuels with different octane numbers. And rumors say that AI95 gasoline contains too many additives, which can negatively affect engine operation.

With engine 1.6 106 hp

For this vehicle model, the base model of the power unit is an engine with a displacement of 1.6 liters, which is capable of delivering approximately 106 horsepower. The “engine” is a 16-valve version of the engine running on gasoline with an octane rating of 95. It is combined with a five-speed manual transmission or automatic transmission. Gasoline consumption of Lada Vesta according to factory data for various gearbox options can be as follows.

For “mechanics”, when driving in the city you will need 9.3 liters per 100 km, in city and highway conditions a little less than 6.9 l/100 km, and when driving on the highway only 5.5 l/100 km. For the automatic transmission, the gasoline consumption data is slightly less and amounts to 8.9-6.6-5.3 l/100 km, respectively. Manufacturers claim that when installing a robotic gearbox, fuel consumption will decrease slightly. From this we can conclude that with the right approach to operating the machine, you can achieve significant savings on the “mechanics”.

The car engine develops 106 horsepower, which is quite enough for comfortable movement both on the highway and in the city. Reviews from Lada Vesta owners about actual consumption can be found very different, which indicate that it largely depends on the driving style of the car, its operating conditions, and the fuel used. Most of them indicate increased indicators compared to factory data.

Reviews from Lada Vesta owners about fuel consumption

Stanislav. Moscow city. I purchased a car from a dealership in January 2016. Today the mileage is almost 30 thousand km. Most of the time I move around the city, but sometimes I get out on the highway. At first, my Lada Vesta fuel consumption was about 12 l/100 km. After the engine was run-in, fuel consumption on the Lada Vesta decreased. In a city with traffic jams, no more than 11 liters are burned, on the highway about 7 l/100 km.
Vladimir. G. Tula. I've owned the car for two years now. Under the hood there are 106 horses with a manual transmission, which is more than enough for me. I'm happy with the car, so far the only expenses are for maintenance and refueling. I trust only specialists to perform scheduled maintenance. My driving style is calm, so gas consumption for the Lada Vesta is very moderate. On the highway 5.5-6 liters per hundred. In the city it’s just over 10 liters.
Victor. Novosibirsk city. In winter I became the owner of Vesta. There are no complaints about the car, the mileage is approaching 8 thousand km. I move mainly around the city. I take my wife to work, my children to school and kindergarten, then I head to my place of work. About 30 km are gained per day. My Lada Vesta SV Cross showed fuel consumption per 100 km as follows: - in a city with traffic jams up to 12 l/100 km; — on a country road approximately 7.5 l/100; - in a mixed cycle no more than 10 liters. I tried to calculate gasoline consumption based on actual mileage, and not on-board computer readings.

Tests "Behind the wheel"

Experts from the magazine “Behind the Wheel” took two editorial Vestas. A sedan with a 1.6‑liter engine and AMT, as well as a SW Cross station wagon with a 1.8‑liter engine and manual transmission. Lukoil Ecto gasoline of different grades was poured into each car in turn: first AI-92, then AI-95, and for dessert - the elite AI-100. The races were carried out at the same time in similar weather. To minimize measurement error, the canisters were filled at the same dispenser (from the corresponding pistols, of course) at the same gas station. Test results:

What kind of gasoline do you recommend for filling the Vesta? Is there a difference when using gasoline with different octane ratings? Take part in the survey and leave your comments. Let us remind you that in another article we determine the real fuel consumption of the new AvtoVAZ product.

Question for all West owners. What kind of gasoline are you using? The factory recommends 95, but allows the use of 92. Who drives which one, what does it feel like, how is the dynamics...consumption? What do you recommend for 1.8?

Gas-gasoline Lada Vesta was able to travel a thousand kilometers at one gas station

An experimental version of the Lada Vesta, which uses not only gasoline but also methane gas as fuel, was able to travel a thousand kilometers at one gas station during testing. These tests, which were completed successfully, marked the beginning of serial production of the bi-fuel Lada Vesta. Officially it will be called Vesta CNG . If you have already rushed to the dealers for a brand new bi-fuel Vesta, then stop, there are no production versions on sale yet. When they will appear, none of the AvtoVAZ employees yet knows, or knows, but is silent like a partisan. But it is known that the first models of the bi-fuel Vesta will soon arrive for testing in corporate factory fleets.

For the first time, the gas-gasoline Lada Vesta was officially presented exactly a year ago at Innoprom 2016, an innovation exhibition held in Yekaterinburg. According to AvtoVAZ engineers, the bi-fuel car turned out to be very economical; if driven correctly, the bi-fuel Lada Vesta will be able to travel not a thousand kilometers, but even more than a thousand. How much more, however, is not specified. The driver can switch from one type of fuel to another at any time while driving. In addition, AVTOVAZ engineers claim that using methane as fuel significantly extends the life of a car engine, and the fuel cost savings are more than three times.

The engineers hid a metal-composite gas cylinder in the luggage compartment, right behind the back of the rear “sofa.” It is designed for ninety liters of fuel, but up to eighteen cubic meters of methane can be pumped into it. The gas cylinder is equipped with an integrated fuse and valve, which eliminate the possibility that the cylinder body will crack or rupture. Also, if a gas line is damaged in an accident, methane will not be able to escape. By the way, methane is much safer than propane or butane, because in the event of a leak, it does not accumulate in one place, but is dispersed in the atmosphere, so it simply cannot explode - for an explosion a certain density of gas is needed in one place. But butane or propane can explode.

When will the average citizen wait for the Lada Vesta CNG in dealer showrooms, and, most importantly, how much he will have to pay for this economical car miracle, no one close to the topic has yet reported.

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By the way, a year ago Ford Sollers also released a test batch of bi-fuel Ford Focuses. The other day, AVTOVAZ management announced that soon, by the end of this year, the plant will produce two station wagons, and next year three more domestic new products will appear.

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I use 95 G-Drive at Gazprom, time-tested gasoline in more than one car.

It is better to fill in 95, because... at our gas stations, instead of 92, they pump gasoline at an octane rating of 88...89. 92nd - if only you are very sure...

For a long-distance trip I filled it with 95 and the consumption was 6.6 l/100 km. I'll pour 95.

Good decision! My brother returned from the south - he refueled with 92 near Krasnodar... while the power system was being repaired, they took a fuel sample - 80 octane ((... Now, if I had refueled with 95, I could have gotten home better...

Only 95, I can’t refuel Kalina with 1.6 or Vesta with 1.8, it immediately detonates and drives worse.

Well, I don’t have concrete at 92, but I think at 95 the ride will be more cheerful and eat less.

Only 95, I can’t refuel Kalina with 1.6 or Vesta with 1.8, it immediately detonates and drives worse.

Well, I don’t have concrete at 92, but I think at 95 the ride will be more cheerful and eat less.

95, I haven’t held a 92 pistol in my hand for 6 years. A long time ago, at 1.6 8kl, I noticed that the 95 runs smoother, heats up less, the traction is better and the consumption is less

92. pulls excellent, 6000 mileage. On the highway you can fill it with 95, it will be faster when overtaking.

I use the 95th, on the 92nd the consumption is higher and it drives worse, for the money it turned out to be even more expensive for me than on the 95th.

Engine 1.6 I first tried to pour 95 during break-in, then switched to 92, then again I filled several full tanks with 95. I understood one thing, that the difference is only in price, neither in traction nor in consumption, there is no difference at all, maybe it’s only at the level of self-hypnosis, all this, in the end I use 92. Now the mileage is almost 16,000, there are no problems with consumption and traction, so whatever you say, it’s more profitable to drive 92

How to check fuel quality

In order to at least slightly protect Vesta from refueling with low-quality fuel in “camping” conditions, it is necessary to visually evaluate the fuel. High-quality AI-95 must be either almost transparent or have a slight blue or yellow tint.

High-quality fuel has a light tint.

If gasoline has a reddish tint, you should refuse to refill, as this indicates metal-containing additives (based on manganese or ferrocene). This is also true for gasoline with a bright yellow color - there is an additive based on monomethylaniline.

It is better to stay away from fuels with a red tint.

In general, it is better to refuel only at trusted stations equipped with expensive imported equipment. Although this does not give a 100% guarantee. You also need to look at the information on the receipt. The fact is that many gas stations illegally use the symbols of famous brands. For example, on a genuine Lukoil check, “Restland LLC” must be written. There should be no other designation.

“Restland LLC” - this is exactly the designation that should be on Lukoil’s check.

And the most important piece of advice is that you shouldn’t skimp on refueling your Lada Vesta. Filling up with gasoline is 2 rubles cheaper, and you can pay for it by having the engine overhauled. This is proven by investigations by journalists when cheaper gasoline from dubious gas stations turns out to be 80 rather than 95.

The presented story offers several simple tips for independently checking the quality of fuel:

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The Lada X-ray model is equipped with two domestic gasoline power units: VAZ 21129 with a volume of 1.6 liters and 106 hp. 148 Nm and VAZ 21179 with a volume of 1.8 liters 122 hp. 170 Nm. Also found here is a 1.6-liter Renault H4M engine with a power of 110-113 hp. 150-152 Nm.

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Topic: Lada Vesta - 92 or 95 gasoline?

Share who pours what kind of gasoline into their VAZ. On Kalina they say the 1.6 liter 106 horsepower engine only requires 95 gasoline. It's nonsense, the engine is not boosted at all.

Will Vesta also have to use 95? It is at least a few rubles more expensive. Or will the consumption be less at 95?

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Re: Lada Vesta - 92 or 95 gasoline?

I don’t know which one will be recommended, but it is better to follow the recommendations, even if the compression ratio allows you to pour less octane fuel, and this is due to the firmware (how much earlier the ignition can be set). Regarding 92 vs 95: It’s like Canon or Nikon, Mercedes or BMW and so on. Whether the consumption on the 95 will be lower than on the 92 depends on the engine. But judging by the forums, there is a difference, the 95 is more economical. I’ll give you a couple of links to read about articles comparing cars running on 92 and 95 fuel. https://www.zr.ru/content/articles/60557 … e-pyatogo/ https://www.autoreview.ru/_archive/secti … ON_ >

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Re: Lada Vesta - 92 or 95 gasoline?

Share who pours what kind of gasoline into their VAZ. On Kalina they say the 1.6 liter 106 horsepower engine only requires 95 gasoline. It's nonsense, the engine is not boosted at all.

Will Vesta also have to use 95? It is at least a few rubles more expensive. Or will the consumption be less at 95?

92 can be voided from the guarantee if anything happens, and the consumption seems to be a little more than 95, the consumption is less but more expensive, I think it was just an extra risk

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Re: Lada Vesta - 92 or 95 gasoline?

92 can be voided from the guarantee if anything happens, and the consumption seems to be a little more than 95, the consumption is less but more expensive, I think it was just an extra risk

How is it possible to void the warranty on the 92nd? If the manufacturer is allowed to cast 92nd, then this will not affect the warranty.

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How is it possible to void the warranty on the 92nd? If the manufacturer is allowed to cast 92nd, then this will not affect the warranty.

I read on the priors forum, if you use 92, then the ditation is read from the car’s computer, if the engine breaks down, then the blame will be transferred to you, that is, it is not a warranty case

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I read on the priors forum, if you use 92, then the ditation is read from the car’s computer, if the engine breaks down, then the blame will be transferred to you, that is, it is not a warranty case

Is detonation being read from the BC? By God, these dealers are storytellers. The maximum they can read is dashboard readings and errors. Engine operating modes, as far as I know, are not visible. And so, I repeat, if the manufacturer allows you to pour 92nd gasoline, then they have no right to remove the guarantee for 92nd gasoline itself. BUT, if the examination shows that in fact the tank contains not 92, but... Well, let’s say, 76 or the fuel is of poor quality, then repairs are at the expense of the car owner. Well, the owner, in turn, can request reimbursement for repairs from the gas station where he last refueled.

PS Could you please put some punctuation marks, otherwise it's hard to read.

AI-92 is not for LADA Vesta: The compression ratio and the quality of gasoline spoil the engine, according to the Internet

VAZ units “don’t like” when people skimp on them.

Photo: Gasoline for LADA Vesta AI-95 and AI-92, source: Rengum
LADA Vesta owners with VAZ engines often fill up AI-92 in order to save money. the mismatch in compression ratios and the questionable quality of gasoline, which shorten the engine’s life, are not taken into account.

Compression ratio and detonation

The choice between AI-92 and AI-95 puzzled many newsmakers. AvtoVAZ itself allows the 92nd, and recommends the 95th. At the same time, the difference in price between gasoline brands is about 3 rubles per liter.

The owner of a LADA Vesta with a 1.6-liter VAZ engine calculated on his YouTube channel that it costs 150 rubles less to fill a full tank with 92-liter gasoline than with 95-liter gasoline. The “behavior” of the car does not change, but the AI-95 saves 0.3-0.4 liters per 100 km and has a longer range. At the same time, taking into account the cost of 1 liter of fuel, consumption and power reserve, 92nd gasoline turns out to be 30 rubles per tank more profitable than 95th

However, 30 rubles is not such a pronounced benefit, a motorist who wants to extend the life of the engine

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He explains the final transition to 95 gasoline by compression ratios
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The 1.6-liter engine on the Vesta provides a compression ratio of 10.45 atm, while the AI-92 is designed for a compression ratio of 10.5 atm. At the same time, the engine works “at the limit”, the fuel does not burn completely, the cylinders overheat. This accelerates wear and increases the risk of detonation. The lower the octane number of the fuel, the more prone it is to detonation in modern engines, which increases the load on connecting rods and pistons.

Low fuel quality

Finding quality gasoline at gas stations is difficult. 92nd in properties may turn out to be “90th”, which will increase the load on the engine and the risk of detonation

. The ECU will slightly adjust the operation of the engine, in particular, the ignition of the mixture, but the car will lose traction. You will have to step on the gas more actively, which will lead to excessive consumption of fuel. In this case, it will not be possible to completely remove the load from the unit.

Photo: Refueling LADA Vesta, sources: Angi and Drive2
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In a 1.8-liter engine with a compression ratio lower than that of a 1.6-liter, 92-octane gasoline burns worse, but there is no severe overheating, and therefore the risk of detonation is lower. However, the car's dynamics suffer.

Using AI-95 gasoline will help preserve the life of the LADA Vesta engine by delaying overhauls.

. Despite the fact that this fuel is more expensive, the risk of detonation is reduced, overheating and overconsumption are prevented, and the harm from possible refueling with low-quality gasoline is reduced - when refueling with 95, it is better to get “93” than to fill with 92, but get “90” y".

What gasoline to fill in Lada Vesta (survey and tests)

In the operating manual Lada Vesta manufacturer