Gross defects of the Lada Largus or saving on small things. Largus Lada weak points

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Department of Childhood Diseases: Lada Largus

Judging by the reviews, in the case of the Lada Largus, everyone distinguished themselves a little: either the domestic assembly will let us down, then the French “heart” will begin to play pranks over little things, or the overly complex logistics and component delivery system will play a cruel joke. However, Largus is no longer a newcomer to the market, and all serious problems have already been solved through the joint efforts of AvtoVAZ and the Renault-Nissan alliance. Official dealers, as well as specialists from “garage” services who had the opportunity to communicate with this model, told us about the weak points of the Lada Largus.

Air conditioner leak

“From the first day of operation, air conditioning condensate has been flowing under the front passenger’s feet. I read about the problem on the Largus forums - everyone has a leak. If you didn’t know about this, put your hand under the rug - there’s already a bucket’s worth of water splashing there,” writes the owner of Largus, Sergei, in his review on the website wroom.ru. Perhaps not everyone has encountered a lake at the feet of the front passenger, but certainly many have: there are enough cars that are “raw” in every sense for the manufacturer to pay close attention to the problem. It turned out that this is a “childhood disease” not so much of the machine as of the assembly. The drain hole in the heater housing simply did not line up with the drain valve hole installed in the car body.

To begin with, AvtoVAZ sorted out the problem on already produced cars: the case was recognized as under warranty, and official dealers received an information letter from the manufacturer, according to which the leak was fixed free of charge for the owners. The repair process was fairly simple: the heater top mounting screws and dash amp mounting bolts were loosened, the heater bottom was aligned so the drain holes lined up, and everything was put back together. The main thing is that the “tongue” of the amplifier gets into the U-shaped boss of the heater housing - this is a sure sign that everything is assembled correctly. The problem was also solved in production: according to the manufacturer, control over the installation of the instrument panel was strengthened on the assembly line.

CV boots are torn

The boots of CV joints, which could not stand the test of Russian cold and roads, became, perhaps, the most discussed topic in the circles of “largus drivers”. Rubber “accordions” tore literally within the first thousand kilometers, exposing the delicate insides of the drives to road dirt. The result, of course, was not long in coming: strong crunching noises when turning the steering wheel more than once bothered the owners who did not have time to notice the rupture of the boot in time and contact the officials.

However, contacting dealers also did not always promise an easy solution to the problem: according to technology, the entire drive assembly had to be replaced, and not just the boot (and there were cases when dealers did not immediately agree to resolve the warranty issue). Very quickly these drives became in short supply, and owners had to wait a long time for them. In this regard, the fact that the parts were supplied from Romania and, as representatives of AvtoVAZ explained, a lot of time was spent on customs clearance did not help in this regard.

“...November 2012, mileage 9800, the left boot cracked on the clamp, a grenade crunched, 04/22 contacted the dealer, they determined it was under warranty, the day before yesterday I called them, they answered that there were no drives even at the factory. I didn’t expect such an ambush from Largus, I need a car every day...” wrote user Dmitry Radygin in a thematic group on the VKontakte social network.

The reason for the fragility of the anthers was complex. They suspected, in particular, a design miscalculation: supposedly the boot was too small for the CV joint on which it was installed, because of this it was tightened and easily torn. This happened especially often in winter, when the anther material became dull. “We need to introduce a new position at AvtoVAZ - anther crusher, or stop selling Largus cars in the winter... It’s some kind of nonsense, honestly,” writes Admin on the lada-largus.com forum.

It is worth recognizing that the manufacturer actively supported feedback, collected statistics on this malfunction, and the solution to the problem, they say, was taken under control by the president of AvtoVAZ himself. AvtoVAZ fought with the torn anthers jointly with the Renault Nissan alliance, and approached the problem comprehensively: they updated the design of the anthers, the assembly technology in production, and even transportation methods.

The dealers were unable to provide details of the changes - some of the improvements were carried out by the alliance - however, they stated that since the end of 2013, a new type of anthers began to be installed on cars, for which much fewer problems and questions arise. This, by the way, was confirmed by one of the garage services.

The back of the chair doesn't hold up

On many Largus, the back of the driver’s seat stubbornly refuses to stay in place and gradually, slowly, begins to lean back. “The designers apparently specially provided for this so that there would be no congestion in the back, and depression in the spine...” jokes Dima56rus on the website lada-largus.com.

The reason for the excessively movable backrest of the chair turned out to be an adjustment spring, which the owners quickly got used to tightening themselves with a clamp, thus fixing the backrest in one position. Then the manufacturer arrived: in the summer of 2020, a bulletin was issued, according to which the owners were required to repair the adjustment mechanism as part of the warranty. The officials already did without clamps and replaced the defective spring with a higher-quality analogue.

The root of the problem lies in the batch of seat sets that . By the way, another defect was recorded with chairs from this supplier - the unreliability of the heating elements. There were fewer cases of the driver's seat heating not working, officials say, but this problem was also included in the technical bulletin and subsequently corrected during production.

Engine speed fluctuates

“I’m completely tired of the car’s capriciousness. It would be nice if the revolutions fluctuated for 5-10 minutes when warming up, but even after that, while driving, small jumps in revolutions occur on an unheated engine (and sometimes significant ones - the car itself raises the revolutions to 3-3.3k),” writes Ilya Mashintsev on the website drive2.ru.

Floating speed on 16-valve Renault engines is a fairly well-known feature, and Largus was not spared from it either. The problem was the rubber o-ring on the throttle valve - it was sagging, and air began to leak through it.

The manufacturer recognized the problem as a warranty case, and official dealers changed (and are changing) the rings without any problems when contacted. It is worth noting that at first, officials often replaced the entire throttle assembly under warranty, although the problem was completely eliminated by replacing the rubber rings.

However, it won’t be difficult to fix the problem yourself. Many owners complained that the rings replaced under warranty did not last long, and simply coated the rings with silicone or wrapped them with fum tape, making them thicker. The solution turned out to be effective and quite reliable. By the way, they say that some dealers sometimes even offer to wrap the rings with fum tape instead of replacing them. There is a more elegant solution for those who do not want to “collectively farm” fum tape: it is not difficult to select a denser and softer o-ring of the required diameter.

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Of course, the owners of classmates and competitors can gloat and be in full confidence that they definitely made the right choice and bought the most reliable and problem-free car. But ideal cars do not exist, and the fact that your favorite model has not yet appeared in this section (or have you not yet gone through the list of all the materials in the section?) means only one thing: we just haven’t gotten to it yet.

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What problems does Lada Largus have?

The first problems of the Lada Largus station wagon were identified already in the first week of the start of car sales. Assembly defects can be either not very serious or quite significant, which simply will not allow the car to drive. The manufacturer recognizes some of the malfunctions as their faults and eliminates them under warranty, however, sometimes you have to wait a very long time for this.

One of the first unpleasant surprises that the Lada Largus can present to its owners after only 200 km is the wire of the starter solenoid relay that is shorted on the engine due to frayed insulation. This deficiency manifests itself in the fact that the car refuses to start, and the instrument panel does not react in any way to turning the key in the ignition switch.

There may also be problems with the chassis with CV joint boots or, as they like to be called colloquially, “grenades”. In cold weather, hard rubber boots

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LADA Largus: the pros and cons of the car

A new or updated car that appears on the market always attracts attention. Potential buyers want to know what changes are included in the car. The main thing is to find out the advantages and disadvantages before a possible purchase. Let's look at the changes that have occurred, find out the pros and cons of the Lada Largus car.

Based on the above, taking into account the opinions of experts and car owners, we will draw conclusions.

Exterior of the updated car

Unfortunately, little has changed in the appearance of the car. The station wagon received:

1. Updated racks.
2. Increased rear springs.
3. Wheels are 16 inches.
4. Unpainted body kits made of plastic.

Rails were installed on the roof of the car and the car was supplemented with fog lights. From the outside, the car looks faceless, shrouded in plastic on all sides.

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Largus interior

If you think that significant changes have taken place inside the salon, then you are mistaken. The first feeling is that you are in a Renault salon. Everything is moderate and sparing. Only some details have been modified by the manufacturer. The front row seats cause concern. They are still without lateral support. Therefore, concentration is required when cornering to avoid being thrown out of your seats.

You can notice that the steering wheel and instrument panel have been slightly modified. The multimedia kit is frankly weak without a screen and all kinds of additional useful functions that are found in almost all foreign-made cars.

The new product is available in two versions:

1. For 5 passenger seats.
2. 7 seats.

Consequently, when the second row seats are folded, additional usable space appears. The possibilities for transporting oversized cargo are increasing.

Technical part

The car is offered on the market with one 1.6-liter power unit. The power of the naturally aspirated engine is 102 horsepower.

Fuel consumption (in mixed mode) is 8 liters. The gasoline power unit is capable of accelerating the Lada Largus to 100 kilometers in 11.2 seconds.

The engine is coupled with a 5-speed manual transmission (Renault JR5). The mechanical unit has previously proven itself on the positive side. There are no questions about its uninterrupted operation.

Before we move on to considering the advantages and disadvantages, let's get acquainted with the numbers: find out the dimensions, weight of the car and ground clearance.

The length of the updated station wagon is 4470 mm. The width of the machine is within 1750 mm. The height of the Lada Largus is 1670 mm. The total weight of the car is 1790 kilograms.

Station wagon (5 seats)

The fuel tank capacity is designed for 50 liters of gasoline. The luggage compartment is of interest. In the 5-seater version, the useful volume is 560 liters.

In the version with 7 seats, the usable area is 135 liters. With the second row passenger seats folded down, the usable trunk area increases significantly to 2350 liters!

7 seats

The distance from the bottom of the car to the ground is within 145 mm. These indicators are taken under vehicle load. According to the passport, the ground clearance is 170 mm.

Positive aspects

Among the positive aspects we note:

• Suspension energy intensity.
• Spacious trunk with quick folding of the second row seats.
• In the version of the car for 7 people, passengers in the third row are comfortable, there is enough space. Even if they are big people.
• Although the driver's position leaves much to be desired, all instruments are easy to read. Buttons and control levers are in close proximity. Therefore, the driver is not distracted on the sides, which allows him to fully concentrate on the road situation.
• The price-quality ratio is at the proper level.
• Pockets located in the doors help. Convenient to use for every little thing.
• The rails on the roof of the car are securely fastened and hold tightly.
• With a modest interior decoration, it is important that all fastenings are made conscientiously. Nothing rattles while the car is moving.

About the disadvantages of the Lada Largus car

The main claims made by car owners and noted by experts are described below.

• The Lada Largus car has disgusting interior ergonomics.
• I'm not happy about the lack of armrests.
• The shelf for passengers, located in the upper part, does not bear any load. She's simply not in demand.
• Many experts and car owners believe that the car has weak dynamics and short gears.
• If the air conditioner turns on, you need to be prepared for a loss of power from the power unit.
• In the 5-person version, there is clearly not enough legroom for second-row passengers.
• The speakerphone was found unsatisfactory. Everything is wheezing, the sound quality is low.
• Simple things surprise: there is no protection for the gas tank cap. Free access for everyone who wants to drain gasoline does not bring positive connotations.
• The spare wheel is poorly positioned. There is no way to quickly dismantle and replace a failed tire.

Finally

The car clearly does not pretend to be a leader in its class. But the price-quality ratio is within reasonable limits. Knowing the advantages of the car and its disadvantages, you can independently decide to buy a Lada Larus. It is possible that in the near future the car will acquire new features. For now, let's be content with what we have!

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Defects in Lada Largus

At first glance, as soon as Largus went on sale, I was looking for some kind of catch, looking for some shortcomings in Largus. And now, six months later, I can safely say that I know every unfinished detail in this car. And I will be happy to share my opinion and my observations with other car enthusiasts.

When the driver gets into the car, the first thing he does is insert the key into the ignition - I did the same thing, but I couldn’t get into the lock the first time, and the second time was less successful. The fact is that the engineers made the lock and its location so inconvenient that it is extremely difficult to find it.

Lada Largus can be seen with minor flaws

Next, I would pay attention to the driver's seat, which absolutely cannot replicate human anatomy - most likely, others have the same shape. Sitting on Largus's car seats is extremely uncomfortable - the shoulders and head don't even touch him, the only plus about such seats is that the lumbar support is adjustable.

I also noticed a lot of gross flaws, for example, I was surprised when I didn’t see a light in the glove compartment. As it turns out, the light in the glove compartment only lights up if the ignition is on.

I’m still studying the car and can’t figure out whether AvtoVAZ tried to save money on some parts, or whether they simply forgot to supply them. I specifically thought about this when I didn’t find the rear mudguards, the most surprising thing is that there are front mudguards. In addition to the shortcomings, I would immediately like to point out a very important advantage - Largus has metal protection on the crankcase, which many foreign cars do not have.

I don’t even want to talk about the location of the buttons - none of them satisfied me. The seat heating button is located between the seat and the door - it is extremely difficult to reach it. The climate control button is so low that while driving in third gear there is no access to the button. And this is just the beginning; upon closer inspection, it becomes funny and the question immediately arises: “Who came up with this arrangement?”

Lada Largus owners complain about the location of the control buttons on the console

But any car has both positive and negative aspects. Regarding the shortcomings, it seems that he said everything. I would also like to note the positive aspects. First of all, the ground clearance, which has never let me down, although I drove on completely different roads.

In Largus we were pleased with the dimensions. But the dimensions are not so much the interior itself as the trunk. I just chose a car not only for transporting passengers, but also for transporting cargo, so the size of the trunk is very important to me.

I can't say anything bad about the build quality. Although I’ve only been driving the car for six months, there’s still no creaking or noise.

Despite the fact that Largus has quite attractive advantages, there are still more shortcomings. Everything would be fine, but if I had immediately seen all the shortcomings of Largus, then, of course, I would have looked for some other car. Largus would not be bad if AvtoVAZ did not skimp on little things.

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Reviews from Lada Largus owners - the pros and cons of the model

Denis:

“For a long time I wanted to write a review of the car I bought. I kind of inherited the car from a friend who was selling his Lada Largos in connection with the purchase of another car. So here it is. I now need a car exclusively for work, since the family has another car, which, so to speak, is for going out. I thought about purchasing his Largos from a friend; before that, of course, I scoured the Internet. Reviews of Lada Largos were pretty good everywhere. I dared to take it.

So, I got a car with the maximum configuration, a 1.6-liter engine, a third row of seats, heated seats, air conditioning, a radio and just a few other little things.

First impressions.

In the year I've owned this horse, I've already covered 72,000 kilometers.

Now a little about first impressions: a really large, almost huge interior on wheels. By the way, it’s interesting to note that I didn’t have any questions about the body: nothing groans, crackles, rings, there’s no feeling of laxity. Adequate grip and gear shifts are easy and effortless. Paired with the gearbox, the engine works with a bang. The suspension for “good” Russian roads is almost ideal. There really is plenty of space in the car.

The first time I drove a car, I was constantly mentally preparing myself for the fact that something was about to fly in it. But my fears have not yet come true. The car drives without problems.

I can draw a small conclusion: if a new car drove 20 thousand without problems, then it will drive 50 without much hassle. The only “but”: for some reason in my region I have problems with parts for Largus, why this situation is unclear. I looked for what I needed from the so-called illegal immigrants.

On the highway the car moves smoothly, does not fly off, does not roll, however, the fuel consumption upset me: at a speed of 90 km/h it took 9 liters per hundred meters.

Conclusion: the car is not that bad. But, as for me, it’s only for work. Although, it's a matter of taste, of course. The car reminds me of a big barn on wheels.”

Vitaly:

“I'm a practical person. I believe that you should buy a car based on your needs. If you need a car for commuting to work, then you need to take an economical compact car; for relaxation, fishing - a jeep is just right; just for a family - a station wagon will do. Of course, if possible, you can buy several cars for all occasions. But not everyone can afford it.

Why did I choose the Lada Largus? The reviews of Lada Largus seemed quite tolerable to me; I never read anything depressing. I drive a lot, several times a week for 300 km, for sure, so I needed a manual, since an automatic one eats up much more on the highway. I have a large family: a wife, three children, which means there should be a lot of space in the car. The machine should also have a good carrying capacity, since sometimes you have to transport materials for work. Largus could provide me with everything I needed, so I took him.

Immediately after I bought it, problems began with the steering wheel, it seemed to be rattling. The master looked, fixed it, there was something wrong with the rings and the hub. Anyway.

I would like to note the suspension – excellent. I am transporting workers from neighboring villages, but the roads there are bumpy. So, the car seems to be floating on them. Of course, this car is a worker; it cannot boast of a beautiful design, both external and internal. This may be important to some, but for me it is not important, since I rented a car exclusively for work. And the fact that Largus is a little “uncouth” doesn’t bother me much.”

By the way, I already wrote about Largus, the article is called test drive Lada Largus.

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Largusology – Autoreview

I have been driving a Lada Largus station wagon with a Renault K4M engine for three years now. And AvtoVAZ recently introduced engines of its own design in Largusy, with the index 11189. How could you not compare this with mine? I compared it.

The VAZ-11189 engine has been known for a long time; Kalina and Granta are equipped with it. No technical frills, two valves per cylinder - simplicity itself. As a result, there is more room under the hood; however, the implementation entailed a redesign of the engine compartment. The air filter, unified with Vesta, required moving the expansion tank to the right side member, and the tank itself was used from the XRAY model. Notorious detail: during our life tests, these burst constantly. We can only hope that we have learned how to firmly weld the tank halves.

As usual, before testing, the first thing we do is subject the machines to a weight analysis. Moreover, we got the Largus with a VAZ engine (hereinafter referred to as Vazolargus) in a seven-seater modification; there is reason to believe that it will be noticeably heavier. I didn’t guess: it turned out to be twelve kilograms lighter than my five-seater with a Renault engine (hereinafter referred to as Renolargus). The weight distribution of the cars is also different: there is noticeably less weight on the front of the Vasolargus.

Of course, the masses were equalized for the correctness of measurements; For this purpose, during the work process, the wheel assemblies were changed from machine to machine, so that each exercise was performed on the same tires. The fuel was also identical - AI-95. Why? Although “ninety-second” gasoline is approved for the VAZ-11189 engine, the instructions indicate that all the characteristics were obtained on AI-95, which is what they filled in with.

Acceleration measurements showed that the results differ by an insignificant one and a half seconds to “hundreds”. And the maximum speed of Renolargus is as much as 10 km/h higher.

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