Why does the Lada Vesta battery drain (newsletter) » Lada.Online

Problem

Owners of a Russian sedan are sometimes faced with the fact that the Vesta battery spontaneously discharges, and this happens, naturally, at the most inopportune moment. It is worth noting that this problem does not affect everyone - it is typical for owners of Lada Vesta, manufactured before August 21, 2020 and only in the Lux configuration. The fact is that in this version the car is equipped with an additional EMM electronic unit.

On certain versions of Lada Vesta the battery discharges itself

What to do if the battery does not turn

A good battery lasts 3-5 years. And if the battery in your Lada Vesta is dead, then don’t rush to run to the battery market. AvtoVAZ technologies require that the battery supplied with the new car be of high quality, and the problem is often not in the battery itself, but in the fact that it is discharging. Think about saving money by using additional lights, speakers, and other equipment, including attachments.

You need to figure out why the battery died. You can charge it yourself by purchasing a cigarette lighter (a pair of clips) and asking a neighbor to start the engine. In this case, the main thing is to purchase high-quality clamps and monitor the polarity of the connected terminals yourself. You can start your engine only after the second car is started. Of course, you must connect the terminals with the ignition of both cars turned off. Don't overdo it when trying to start your engine! It may not start for completely different reasons - lack of gasoline, clogged filter and other problems. From a broken spark plug filled with gasoline to a fuse. Try to start it for a couple of minutes and give it a break. Then again. And then it’s time for the neighbor to go to work. And you should call a specialist.

A more reliable means of charging a dead battery is a charger. It is important that the battery does not boil while charging. You can check this by bending down and listening to the battery. If gurgling is heard, the charging current is too high. A proper charger should measure the battery voltage itself, first giving a large charge current, and then less and less. Periodically measuring its indicators, preventing the electrolyte from boiling. Only expensive models satisfy such requirements, but if you buy once in your life, don’t skimp. Moreover, saving on battery life is a dubious benefit.

Review

It is already known that official dealers have received requests from owners of defective cars with questions regarding the recall campaign. However, at the moment, a database with VIN numbers of cars that will be subject to recall has not yet been created.

Therefore, it is worth understanding that the letter does not mean a recall campaign, but simply informs the salon about a malfunction in the event of a client’s request. In addition, there is no exact information about whether a Vesta with a discharged battery will be repaired for free if it is not under warranty.

Despite the letter, repairs at the dealer are not easy

Reviews about the quality of work at dealerships vary - not everything always goes smoothly. For some, after the measures have been implemented, the check light comes on, for others, problems begin with turning on the high beams, etc.

Negative reviews

Considering the reviews about Vesta batteries, it should be noted that more than 90% of the statements about them are positive. Only 10% of surveyed buyers were dissatisfied with their purchase.

Among the negative statements, it should be noted that the batteries of the domestic brand do not last long. Some drivers claim that the battery only lasted 2 years. However, it should be noted that with proper operation, the operating period of these devices is about 5 years. In this case, the manufacturer provides a warranty for 3 years. Experts say that such statements may appear due to improper use of the battery.

If an Economy category battery is used in loaded conditions and in an unsuitable climate, it will not be able to ensure stable operation of the electrical system. In this case, you need to choose the right Vesta battery model.

Independent actions

Of course, the ability to repair a fault under warranty is good. However, not everyone lives near a dealership, and the warranty isn't that simple. Therefore, the question of what to do if the Lada Vesta battery is discharged is very relevant.

If you decide to do everything yourself, instructions compiled by one of the sedan owners, Vladislav Mustafin, will help you.

IMPORTANT! First of all, you need to disconnect the battery!

Removing the glove box

To gain access to the necessary elements, you must first disassemble the glove box. This is not difficult to do. It is necessary to open the glove compartment lid, and then press the latches located at the top.

It's better to start from the glove compartment area

When this is done, you need to pull the cover towards you, and you will feel the resistance of the 3 latches below. Next, you need to unscrew the 5 screws that secure the box body to the dashboard.

Then you should unsnap the side panel plug from the right end, grab the drawer handle, which is located at the top center, and pull it towards you. It is also necessary to disconnect the limit switch from the terminal and disconnect the lamp plug.

The photo shows the attachment points, as well as 3 lower fasteners

By the way, not everyone removes the glove compartment cover first during the dismantling process. This is done for greater convenience, but you can do without this step.

The whole process is clearly demonstrated in the video.

Next, we begin to directly eliminate the problem due to which the battery on the Lada Vesta is discharged.

Repair

In the niche behind the glove box

After removing the box, access to the EMM unit fixed on the engine panel will open.

Also visible is the VCM unit, which is located higher, in front of the passenger airbag.

The block is fixed with a mount and a bolt with a nut of 8 on the reverse side.

The VSM unit must be removed, and then the black block S1 must be disconnected, as indicated in the information letter.

Technologies used

The Vesta car has a battery manufactured by the Saratov Battery Plant, called AKOM - by the way, a reputable manufacturer.

The parameters of the standard battery should not differ from the factory ones - the capacity of the standard battery is 62 ampere-hours, the starting current is 600 amperes, the polarity is reversed, as is typical for foreign cars.

When choosing a replacement for the original Vesta battery, which has expired, and the signal may be that the car starts poorly in winter and discharges quickly - select not only by the size of the socket, but by all the characteristics that were listed.

It's not enough to look at just the amp hour. The starting current must be at least 600 Amperes; this indicator is the most important. Read the article and learn how to select and maintain batteries for Lada Vesta and other passenger cars.

What to do if the battery does not turn

A good battery lasts 3-5 years. And if the battery in your Lada Vesta is dead, then don’t rush to run to the battery market.

AvtoVAZ technologies require that the battery supplied with the new car be of high quality, and the problem is often not in the battery itself, but in the fact that it is discharging.

Think about saving money by using additional lights, speakers, and other equipment, including attachments.

You need to figure out why the battery died. You can charge it yourself by purchasing a cigarette lighter (a pair of clips) and asking a neighbor to start the engine. In this case, the main thing is to purchase high-quality clamps and monitor the polarity of the connected terminals yourself. You can start your engine only after the second car is started.

1. Of course, you must connect the terminals with the ignition of both cars turned off. Don't overdo it when trying to start your engine!
2. It may not start for completely different reasons - lack of gasoline, clogged filter and other problems.
3. From a broken spark plug filled with gasoline to a fuse. Try to start it for a couple of minutes and give it a break. Then again.
4. And then it’s time for the neighbor to go to work. And you should call a specialist.

A more reliable means of charging a dead battery is a charger. It is important that the battery does not boil while charging. You can check this by bending down and listening to the battery. If gurgling is heard, the charging current is too high.

A proper charger should measure the battery voltage itself, first giving a large charge current, and then less and less. Periodically measuring its indicators, preventing the electrolyte from boiling. Only expensive models satisfy such requirements, but if you buy once in your life, don’t skimp.

Moreover, saving on battery life is a dubious benefit.

Why did the battery on Vesta die?

On some Lada Vesta models produced in the Lux configuration before 08/21/2017, there was a problem with self-discharge of batteries.

The factory instructions describe a sequence of operations in which it was recommended that, with the block removed, swap contacts 3-4, 6 and 7, update the software version, and reset errors in all electronic units.

However, you should not do this yourself. Especially if the car is under warranty. Let the experts do it.

If your car is not from the category we described (equipment other than Luxury, manufactured after 08/21/2017), then, most likely, the battery discharge occurred for another reason. More often this happens due to the large amount of energy consumed by the car's devices.

You have, contrary to the ban, installed, say, high-power halogen lamps, or you use fog lights at the same time, you have a large number of different signals, ratchets, switches - do not be surprised that the battery is constantly running out of charge. More often this happens when installing “left-handed” equipment by “left-handed” craftsmen.

Sometimes the cause of battery discharge can be low idle speeds, and constant driving at low speeds, in order to save money. True, if the car is configured correctly, as is the idle speed adjustment, then there should not be such a problem.

Frequent driving at low speeds can also be a driving style when, only occasionally accelerating, the driver coasts at idle engine speed for long periods of time, which is typical, for example, when descending from the mountains.

In this case, it is still recommended to brake with the engine, since the battery is discharged and the brake pads may become overheated from frequent braking and fail. Due to a low battery and a stalled engine, the electric power steering or brakes may fail. Which can also be deadly.

The battery is often discharged if you make short daily commutes from work, for example within 30 km, and while driving you use a lot of (at once) high-current electrical appliances - heated steering wheel, heated seats, loud music, etc.

Together with the engine not warming up to the required level, this can lead to a constantly low charge level. Sometimes the Vesta battery may stop turning the engine in winter due to cold. In cold conditions, it is important to ensure that the engine compartment remains warm at least until the morning.

This is achieved by insulating the entire engine compartment with special certified devices. It is recommended to install them at a service center - since the engine is a dangerous thing, there is little space there, and any ill-considered change is fraught with consequences, even a fire.

Insulation masks, blankets and other products are available for sale. The safest, of course, are heat preservation devices installed outside.

How to service the battery on a Lada Vesta - you need to know

If the battery is discharged, then pay attention to maintenance, of course, if it is serviceable. It is necessary to regularly check the electrolyte density, its quantity, operating temperature, etc. If there is no electrician nearby, you can measure it with a device for measuring the density of the electrolyte - a hydrometer, periodically measuring the density of the electrolyte.

Monitor your electrolyte levels regularly. Usually inside the screw-on or removable plugs there are plastic inserts indicating the liquid level. The electrolyte must reach them. No more and no less. If the hydrometer shows that the electrolyte density is different from normal, you need to dilute it with distilled water or add acid.

We lower the hydrometer into the electrolyte and compare the data on it with the table.

If there is a load fork, apply the load for 5-6 seconds. If the voltage is more than 9 volts, everything is fine. If there is no load plug, then you can make a homemade one from 6 lamps with a power of 55 watts, connecting them in parallel (the plus of each lamp to the plus of the others, the minus to the minus, respectively). If the lights dim after 5 minutes, the battery is discharged.

This is interesting: Renata 371 battery: characteristics and analogues

In maintenance-free batteries, it is enough to keep an eye on the ventilation holes in the battery (small holes on the sides). They should not be covered with anything.

Sometimes it is suggested to install batteries with a capacity higher than the rated capacity, but manufacturers usually do not recommend installing batteries that differ in capacity, due to the fact that a more powerful battery will take longer to charge.

And if the reason is that the battery is discharged due to short runs, then the more powerful battery will become even more discharged! However, some take the risk of installing batteries with a larger capacity, and no one has heard a single complaint from them.

You need to know this is not recommended by the manufacturer.

A radical solution to the problem would be to install a second, spare battery. However, you can’t just put a second battery in parallel. Only a few manufacturers in the world provide high-quality operation of two or more batteries in systems not designed for this. These are, for example, Whisper Power, Victron Energy.

You shouldn't risk all your electrical equipment for little-known manufacturers. It is important that your car model is indicated in the equipment passport as suitable. The cost of devices is usually equal to the cost of the battery. Therefore, this is not recommended under normal conditions.

However, for lovers of extreme sports, mega music, driving through the taiga or tundra, it is sometimes necessary.

3 tips for choosing a battery

There is a large selection of batteries for Lada Vesta. Considering that there are also a lot of fakes, look at the price, not from one seller, but from many. Give preference to branded stores. Learn to spot a fake by eye.

It's easy to do if you pay attention to the little things. Batteries from the best manufacturers are carefully processed and stamped into small parts. Cheap fakes just put on a sticker.

They are not able to do fine stamping because they do not have such high quality presses.

1) When choosing batteries, we give preference to Japanese and Western European manufacturers: Varta, Bosch, Panasonic, Global. Then to Korean, Turkish manufacturers: MUTLU, Royal, Medalist (DELKOR), Atlas, Inki aku.

Then to Russian, Ukrainian, Belarusian manufacturers, jointly with foreigners A-mega, Aktex, Tubor (Arctic Titan Topbat), Akom. Zubr. Then come the Russian batteries themselves: Istok, Zver. At the end of the list are traditionally Chinese.

Although there are interesting examples among them. Especially co-productions with foreigners.

2) Please pay attention to the warranty. The larger it is, the more famous the brand, the better. Although there are cases when little-known manufacturers give a long guarantee for low quality. This means a guarantee is not an indicator of reliability.

3) When choosing, we prefer maintenance-free batteries with a discharge indicator.

For long-term, reliable battery operation, we recommend installing a new battery with a full charge from the very beginning, and then try to avoid complete discharge. At the first signs of discharge, figure out the reasons - the battery itself is to blame, or the on-board electronics. By taking action right away, you will get rid of many problems on the road!

Battery parameters for Vesta

• The amount of charge, that is, the battery capacity. This refers to the electricity generated by the device. For the Lada Vesta battery, the capacity is 62 Ampere-hours.
• Polarity. This parameter is closely related to the design features of the battery case, since it affects the location of the leads and, accordingly, the terminals. On the cover of the device there are markings for the positive and negative terminals.
• Starting current. This value is responsible for the battery’s ability to turn the flywheel with the starter, that is, to start the engine. For a standard device, the value of this indicator is 600 Amperes.
• Case dimensions. Geometric characteristics are very important when choosing and replacing a battery, since the seat has clearly fixed dimensions.

Having information about the battery installed on the Lada Vesta, the owner will be able to purchase a new battery without much difficulty to subsequently replace the worn-out device.

Attention! Experience suggests that the average life of a standard battery is 3-4 years and depends on climatic operating conditions.

Ukrainian batteries in Russia

The political situation has tarnished the reputation of Russian batteries in Ukraine, and Ukrainian batteries in Russia. But how do diplomatic tensions affect product quality? Why do many motorists decide that “car battery” on the battery label is a stigma of shame? We will correct this misunderstanding and tell you about the best Ukrainian car batteries on the Russian market.

"Westa"

All that remains of the glorious brand, which in the 00s gained personal fans even in foreign countries, is only the name. Recently, the company has been producing batteries for the Russian market in Kursk, on. That is, now, practically, the only large manufacturer in Ukraine.

Data on Vesta brand batteries in recent years is not particularly encouraging. If the old-timers found batteries with a service life of 5-7 years, then the current Vestas work on average for two years.

According to reviews on prominent Internet sites, we can say that the batteries, despite being maintenance-free (calcium-doped plates), require maintenance. At least during the autumn maintenance at the service center.

And then you will definitely get 2-3 years out of these batteries.

In general, the quality is identical to the batteries of the Kursk Battery Plant. Plus - energy-intensive grilles. When creating them, the technologies “VacSis Activation” (preparation of lead paste in vacuum mixers) and “Double Side Pasting” (double-sided paston spreading on a rigid drum) are used.

The asking price is from 3,400 rubles (excluding the delivery of the old battery for recycling).

"Force"

The cheerful yellow batteries were conceived as Westa's premium line. Now they are made by Ista, and the situation has changed a little. The batteries have become ordinary calcium batteries, ultra-high starting currents are not observed, and the positive feedback curve has gone down. True, this does not prevent these batteries from being one of the best in terms of price/quality ratio on the Russian market.

1. But in winter, caring for them is still necessary.
2. In general, all calcium batteries are only labeled as “maintenance free”.
3. Yes, they have lower self-discharge and water consumption, but they need additional charging and voltage control.
4. Even in central Russia, any battery must be charged to the maximum twice during the winter.

With such care, a pood (weight “Forse” 60 Ah - 16.3 kg!) battery made of high-quality lead will last at least 2 years.

The asking price is from 3,500 rubles (excluding the delivery of the old battery for recycling).

"Ista"

Actually, this company owns almost all battery brands produced in Ukraine. The brand itself has a long history and a good reputation.

It's no joke, hybrid batteries (low antimony + calcium in one bottle), with expanded grids on negative plates. They need care, but not too much. In general, an average European battery.

With proper use, its service life is up to 4-5 years.

The reviews on these batteries are not scary at all. Users only note that among Dnepropetrovsk batteries you can often come across defective ones, depending on the batch.

However, batteries are easily replaced under warranty, so poor technical control at the factory will not harm your budget. Perhaps technical control is the weakest point in the structure.

On the other hand, monitoring ten to two thousand batteries daily is not so easy.

By the way, about battery reviews

As for negative reviews, the technical literacy of modern drivers is slightly lower than that of representatives of the “old school”.

In the days of purely mechanical cars, in which there were no “brains,” anyone who got behind the wheel, at a minimum, thoroughly knew the structure of their car, and at most, could “tweak” it on their own.

Now the situation is not the same, and many drivers, having read “maintenance-free battery” on the label, put it under the hood and forget about it until the car suddenly refuses to start one day.

In general, the time it takes to care for the battery is compensated by its long service life.

PS It turned out to be a modest review, but what can you do - many brands have sunk into oblivion, some only have their names left, some have irrevocably lost in quality (“A-mega”).

You can add other Ista brands to those listed - Oberon, Stayer, Volta, but structurally they are almost no different from Ista 7.

In a word, although there are not many decent batteries from Ukraine on the Russian market, some of them deserve to bear the proud title of a car battery.

Battery malfunction

The battery becomes inoperative after being completely discharged. A dead device can cause a lot of inconvenience to the owner of a LADA Vesta. Not only will the engine not start, but getting inside the cabin will be a problem, since the central locking is electrically driven. To prevent this situation, the driver's door handle is equipped with a lock cylinder hidden under a special plug. After entering the cabin, the owner will be able to open the hood, providing himself with access to the “dead” battery.

Battery Features

The battery, regardless of the manufacturer, has similar outlines to all other models. However, there are differences that are often missed.

The Lada Vesta is equipped with a standard battery from . This Russian battery occupies something between European and Asian counterparts. Here are a few details that are best to understand right away:

1. Capacity or charge is a unit of measurement. The electricity generated due to operation from battery discharge has its own value. The model keeps the figure around 62 Ah.
2. On Vesta the polarity is reversed. The position of the terminals may therefore vary depending on the model with which the comparison is being made (analogue).
3. “AKOM” empty current is 600 A. This indicator directly affects the ability of the engine to start in low temperatures - an important aspect for residents of Russia.
4. The seat is individual in nature. Despite the complete coincidence in technical characteristics, the new battery may not fit in the place of its predecessor.

All these features need to be known before purchasing or repairing a battery. There is always the opportunity to seek help from specialists, but increasing financial costs is not an option for many.

Additionally, it is worth remembering about free consultations from the seller: be sure to wait for the final answer from a specialist regarding the compatibility of the new battery with your car.

Important! Regardless of the driver’s loyalty to the car, it is impossible to extend the battery life. "AKOM" was created to operate for 4 years. After this time, problems will inevitably arise that will lead to even greater wear and tear on machine parts.

We charge the battery of a Lada Vesta car

There are many reasons that lead to device discharge. Here are a few of them:

• the battery itself is initially deprived of quality conditions (factory defect);
• low outside temperatures, at which the battery loses a lot of charge while parked;
• During prolonged downtime, the possibility of discharge, especially of a new battery, cannot be ruled out.

The easiest and fastest way to return the LADA Vesta battery to “life” is to “light it”. To do this, we attract another car whose battery is fully charged. The “lighting up” process is carried out taking into account certain rules.

1. Both cars must have all instruments and ignition turned off.
2. On a faulty battery, disconnect the negative terminal.
3. We stock up on a set of special cables with clamps. The cross-section of the wires must correspond to the power of the devices, the length is approximately 1.5 m.
4. We connect the positive terminals of both cars with a red cable.
5. The black cable is connected to the negative terminal of the battery on the donor car and to the body ground of the car whose battery is discharged.
6. We start the engine on the “donor”, ​​after which we perform a similar action on the “Vesta” with a discharged battery. Here you will have to “hold” the increased engine speed a little.
7. We disconnect the wires, first the black one and then the red one.

Important! A procedure such as “lighting up” can have a negative impact on the control unit (ECU). The module is especially sensitive during low atmospheric temperatures.

Batteries for Lada Vesta

Mutlu 60 a*h, AGM L2.60.068.A

Mutlu battery is a Turkish product, which is sold in thick plastic packaging. A distinctive feature of this type of battery is its fairly long warranty, up to 2 years. The overall dimensions of the device are as follows: 242x175x190 millimeters.

Main technical characteristics:

• capacity: 60 a*h:
• cold cranking current: 680 A;
• polarity: reverse.

The cost of the battery is 8990 rubles. Sales are made to order. Even with intensive use, the battery remains stable for a long time. It does not begin to shrink quickly even when used in winter at low temperatures.

GIGAWATT G70L 70 a*h 640A

The starting battery of this model can be used on cars of both foreign and domestic production. It is a lead-acid device, the actual overall dimensions of which are as follows: 278x175x190 millimeters.

Main technical characteristics:

• capacity: 70 a*h:
• cold cranking current: 640 A;
• polarity: straight.

The cost of the battery is 4200 rubles. On each device, the manufacturer indicates its ETN number, which consists of 9 digits. Before you buy a model, you need to pay attention to the fact that the warranty period for the product reaches 2 years.

HYUNDAI 80 h, 90D26R

The model is produced in South Korea. The battery is manufactured using a unique calcium technology using tin and silver. High frequency of raw materials ensures reliable and trouble-free operation. Grilles with a new composition of plates are distinguished by significant strength and resistance to corrosion. The overall dimensions of the model are as follows: 261x175x220 millimeters.

Main technical characteristics:

• capacity: 80 a*h:
• cold cranking current: 680 A;
• polarity: straight.

If you need a battery for a Vesta car, the manufacturer of this battery allows you to purchase it at a price of 4,830 rubles. The warranty period for the battery is 2 years. Due to the fact that the model is maintenance-free, evaporation of liquid from it is excluded.

Exide EB712, 71 Ah 670A

This versatile model is equipped with 3D technology. It contributes to better electrical performance and longer product life. In addition, this battery is resistant to any temperature environmental conditions.

Main technical characteristics:

• capacity: 71 a*h:
• cold cranking current: 670 A;
• polarity: reverse.

The cost of the battery reaches 5,727 rubles. A distinctive feature of the model is that it comes with a 3-year warranty.

ENERGIZER PLUS EP70L3X 70 Ah 640A

This universal battery can be used on cars of both domestic and foreign production. It is provided with a stable voltage level of 12 V throughout its entire service life. The advantages of the device include resistance to low temperatures. The overall dimensions of the model are as follows: 278x175x190 millimeters.

Main technical characteristics:

• capacity: 70 a*h:
• cold cranking current: 640 A;
• polarity: straight.

The cost of the battery reaches 4445 rubles. The warranty period for this model is 2 years.

Bosch S3 008 70 a*h 0092S30080

If you want to choose a medium-priced battery for Vesta, this model is perfect. The overall dimensions of the device are as follows: 278x175x190 millimeters. The product provides a standard voltage of 12 V.

Main technical characteristics:

• capacity: 70 a*h:
• cold cranking current: 640 A;
• polarity: reverse.

The cost of the battery reaches 6141 rubles. The warranty is limited to 2 years.

Varta blue dynamic E43 (572409068)

The battery mount for this model is reversed. The patented PowerFrame delivers the starting power you need with high reliability. In addition, it contributes to significant charging speed and resistance to corrosive phenomena. The battery charge lasts for a long period of time.

Main technical characteristics:

• capacity: 72 a*h:
• cold cranking current: 680 A;
• polarity: reverse.

The cost of the battery reaches 5944 rubles. The warranty period is 2 years.

We buy batteries for Vesta

When it becomes necessary to choose a battery, the owner of the Lada Vesta needs to take into account the characteristics of the standard device, as we mentioned earlier.

Today on the market you can find a variety of models from famous manufacturers. We recommend taking a closer look at the products of the following brands:

• "Varta" and "Bosch" (manufacturer Germany);
• "Tyumen" and "Beast" (Russia);
• Multu (manufacturer Türkiye).

The cost of the product varies depending on its capacity and the magnitude of the starting current. Batteries with “low” parameters are estimated at 3.5-4 thousand rubles, and products with higher characteristics will “ask” the buyer for about 4-5 thousand rubles.

Vesta brand factories

Production sites producing energy sources under the Westa brand are located in three countries, including Russia. All of them occupy leading positions in the production of power units for cars in their industry:

1. Istok battery manufacturing plant in Kursk with a production capacity of 3.5 million batteries per year. The technological equipment of the workshops is from well-known foreign European companies - the Italian Sovema and the German DIGATRON. Consumers are enterprises of the automotive industry of the CIS countries and far abroad, the Russian defense industry and automobile manufacturing companies: UralAZ, KAMAZ, GAZ, AVTOVAZ and UAZ. The main products are lead-acid starter batteries that meet the requirements of GOST R 53165−2008.
2. Kazakhstani battery production plant Kainar-AKB, Taldykorgan city. Full production cycle enterprise: all assembly parts are manufactured in workshops, including casting, on new equipment that meets international standards. In the production of batteries, plates made using EXMET technology are used - hardening a lead-calcium alloy by deformation, thereby increasing their corrosion resistance. Quality control of products is carried out according to PCT and ST-KZ standards.
3. Sebang Global Battery Co, Ltd is a leader in the South Korean energy market. The company's products are known throughout the world: the company supplies batteries to 130 countries and is among the top five in terms of production volumes. Suffice it to say that deliveries are made to the German companies Volkswagen and BMW.

Thanks to the introduction of new technologies, Vesta car batteries have qualities that are significant for harsh winter conditions: they have increased starting characteristics, and water losses are at a minimum level.

Some models can be used in severe frosts without problems.

We recommend: Features of the lead-acid battery

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51 Reply from antifashist 2016-06-07 06:31:31

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Re: Current consumption at rest

Probably determined by ear that the revs were too low at startup.

52 Reply from Sergey 2016-10-03 14:52:11 (2016-10-03 16:21:09 edited by Sergey)

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Greetings, fellow sufferer. I have the same. After 5 days of inactivity, the battery was completely drained. And already 2 times in a row. I took the car in May, everything is standard (so don’t blame the signaling). First of all, thank you for the information about reducing the current after 15-20 minutes to an acceptable level. The warranty engineer assured that 0.32-0.35 amperes is the norm and this is the case for everyone. A basic calculation of ampere hours (3 hours - 1A/h. 1 week - 56 A/h) was not successful. They gave me a new battery and sent me on my way. I promised that I wouldn’t just leave him like that, I’d plant a new one and come back again. Be sure to write back if you solve the problem. Thank you.

53 Reply from vishnevskysergey 2016-10-03 17:07:56

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I think the indicated current is 10 times too high.

54 Reply from Fan 2016-10-03 19:44:16

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Re: Current consumption at rest

Normal, average leakage current is 40mA. If your battery runs out after being idle, then in 95% of cases it is due to incorrectly installed electrical equipment. Alarm system, radio tape recorder, recorder and so on.

55 Reply from Sergey 2016-10-03 21:26:58 (2016-10-03 21:28:33 edited by Sergey)

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Dear Fan. You are not entirely attentive to the participants.)) “Everything is standard” - this means everything except the floor mats and the driver. And if you have ideas about the remaining 5% of cases, we will listen to you carefully.

. Who takes 0.35 amps for the first 15 minutes? Can this consumer not go to sleep and continue to suck 350mA for days? I myself understand that the car cannot break down, it’s made of iron. but it broke. ))) Crap. I remembered from an emergency. There was a flash drive in the radio.)))).. (luxury + multimedia equipment)

56 Reply from Fan 2016-10-03 21:38:01 (2016-10-03 21:39:40 edited by Fan)

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Re: Current consumption at rest

I don’t know what you have installed there. There are plenty of smart and correct articles about leaks, read them at your leisure. On Vesta, the electronics fall asleep only after 10-15 minutes. But part of the consumption goes on, the clock on the dashboard, MMC and ECU. More security.

57 Reply from Fan 2016-10-03 21:43:20

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I also forgot to answer - the remaining 5% includes standard electrical equipment, defects, and breakdowns. It could also be a generator. Or maybe it’s just a stupidly crappy battery.

58 Reply from antifashist 2016-10-04 07:03:36

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“Everything is stock” – this means everything except the floor mats and the driver.

The remaining 5% includes standard electrical equipment, defects, and breakdowns. It could also be a generator. Or maybe it’s just a stupidly crappy battery.

If the replaced battery also runs down to zero, you need to take the OD by the trunk and let them look for a leak in the standard equipment.

59 Reply from rvs 2016-10-04 17:11:43

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I measured the leakage current on Vesta. Immediately upon connection - 1.5 A (the alarm is not turned on, the recorder is working) After 2 minutes. – 320 mlA (the recorder turned off, the door lighting circuits, power windows, the lamp with era-GLONASS, etc. were de-energized) After 15 minutes – 10 mlA (everything except the tidy and controller RAM was de-energized)

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How did you measure it? Did you disconnect and reconnect the battery terminal at each measurement?

61 Reply from Sergey 2016-10-04 21:14:39

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You wrote: “(everything was de-energized except the instrument panel and controller RAM)” – on what basis were the conclusions drawn? Is this just speculation or consumer testing?

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How did you measure it? Did you disconnect and reconnect the battery terminal at each measurement?

Disconnected the terminal from the battery. Any one is possible. I connected a multimeter between the battery terminal and the removed terminal. Multimeter in constant current mode 20A. Then I just watched. There is no need to disconnect the multimeter until the end of the measurement. It took me 15 minutes to do everything.

You wrote: “(everything was de-energized except the instrument panel and controller RAM)” – on what basis were the conclusions drawn? Is this just speculation or consumer testing?

I wrote this in general terms. To this you also need to add an alarm system that is not armed (it is always powered) and an MMS memory. The rest, I assume, is all de-energized. Otherwise, how to explain such a small current. Honestly, I expected to see a current in the region of 20-25 mA

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In serviceable batteries, you just need to unscrew the containers and add distilled water to the mark if necessary. If the battery is idle for several months, it must be periodically charged using a stationary charger; if the car is used constantly, the generator itself recharges the battery. All batteries are certified and have a manufacturer's warranty.

The process of replacing a generator on a Lada Vesta

Replacing the generator on a Lada Vesta car is carried out according to the step-by-step instructions given below.

• Place the car on an overpass or above an inspection hole.
• Place wheel chocks under the rear wheels.
• Secure the car with the parking brake.
• Jack up the right front wheel.
• Provide support to prevent the vehicle from falling.
• Unscrew the fastenings of the right front wheel and remove it.
• Unscrew the screws that secure the locker in the wheel arch.

Unscrewing the locker fasteners

• Remove the protective fender liner.

Removing the fender liner

• Remove the standard underbody protection. It is secured with 13 bolts. When they stick, it is necessary to generously water the fixation areas with penetrating lubricant.

Removing standard protection

• Use a screwdriver to pry off the plastic cap that covers the roller.

Prying off the cap

• Remove the plastic cap.

Removing the cap

• Loosen the nut that presses the roller. Since the work is carried out in cramped conditions, it is most convenient to use a spanner.

Loosening the nut

• Insert a Torx T-55 bit with a length of no more than 28 mm into the technological hole located on the pulley hub.

Bit insertion

• Turn the bit counterclockwise. For these purposes, you should use a small wrench. You should stop turning the bit when the belt tension is sufficiently weakened.

Loosening the belt

Belt

• Disconnect electrical wires from the generator.

Disconnecting the generator

• Unscrew the bolts that secure the generator.

Bolt Location

• Remove the generator.
• Install the new unit in the reverse order of removal.
• Check the functionality of the generator and the voltage level of the on-board network.

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• crooked installation of electrical-related equipment;
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• cold weather and lack of thermal insulation of the car hood.

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• remove the decorative cap of the handle by prying it by the groove from below with some sharp object;
• clean any small debris that gets on the lock with a rag;
• lubricate the larva with a special penetrating compound - warm the lock in the cold or use thawing special means;
• open the door with the ignition key.