A car has long ceased to be a luxury. It’s hard to imagine life without a car these days. Many people drive a car every day and for any need - to work, study, dacha, shopping, on vacation. And that's why it becomes very bad when the car won't start. Plans are ruined, meetings are cancelled, people lose money!
We will look at situations where the starter works, but the car still does not start, another time. And now - about what to do if the starter on a Priora does not turn.
First, let's understand how a starter works and what its structure is. An electric motor with a gear that meshes with the engine flywheel and turns it when started. All this is hidden in a housing on which the solenoid relay is mounted. It is designed to move the gear and supply power to the electric motor.
When you turn the ignition key, current is supplied to the relay. Using an electromagnet, it is retracted, using a special mechanism, it moves the gear and starts the engine by closing the contacts. When the key is released, power stops being supplied to the magnet of the solenoid relay, the relay operates in the other direction and the contacts open. So, we know what the principle of operation of the starter looks like in general terms, so now it will be easier for us to understand why the starter does not turn on the Priora.
If you hear clicking sounds when you turn the ignition key and the lights on the instrument panel go out, it may be the battery. It needs to be checked, recharged, topped up with electrolyte or replaced. Is the battery OK? Then the situation becomes more interesting. Check the wires that come from the battery. If they get hot, check their contact with the battery. Remove them from the terminals, clean them, lubricate them (sometimes oxidation occurs) and install them back.
Check the connection between the ground terminal and the body. If necessary, clean this connection. Check the connection between the plus terminal and the starter. Determine if power is supplied to the solenoid relay from the ignition switch. To do this, you need to disconnect the connector from the relay, and turn the ignition key “to start” and measure the voltage at the connector.
The Priora starter still won't turn? Then you will have to remove it from the car and check it.
The removal procedure looks like this: disconnect the battery terminals, unscrew and remove the air filter, unscrew and remove the positive wire from the starter. Then disconnect the connector from the relay, unscrew the starter mounting nuts and remove it. We are already much closer to solving the question of why the Priora’s starter does not turn. Now we take the wires for lighting (crocodiles) and connect them with the negative wire of the battery and the starter housing. We connect the positive one to the relay connector, after which the gear should be activated and ejected forward. If not, change the retractor.
You can hook the negative wire to the starter housing, and the positive wire to the lower terminal of the solenoid relay. The electric motor didn't work? The culprit is most likely the motor brushes.
In this article, we briefly examined the reasons why the starter does not turn on a Priora.
Now many Russians cannot imagine life without a car. Therefore, it is easy to understand them when the vehicle suddenly stops starting at one, far from perfect moment. This is even more unpleasant if it happens in the morning before leaving for work.
At the same time, many car enthusiasts are lost in such a situation and have absolutely no idea how to fix the breakdown on their own.
This material will tell you why a car like Priora may not start in cold weather, and why its starter does not turn. It is important to note that in most cases the problem can be easily fixed on the spot, and if you know how to do this, you can save a lot of money on a car service.
Reasons for failure of the starting system
Most often the following happens:
- For some reason the electric starter does not turn on - the reason is a broken wiring, short circuit or breakdown of the traction relay;
- the starter starts, but an uncharacteristic clicking sound is heard - damage to the coil of the above relay or discharge of the battery;
- the start works, but the starter does not turn or rotates too slowly - the battery is dead.
In addition, the reason here may lie in:
- loss of contact;
- brush wear;
- collector contamination;
- short circuit of the winding wires.
It also happens that the starter works normally, but the flywheel still does not rotate.
Here, first of all, you need to make sure that the attachment to the crater installed on the clutch is not broken. Then you will have to check the integrity of the teeth of the flywheel itself or the drive gear.
It happens that the 16-valve Priora does not turn off the starter after the power plant is factory installed. This happens due to a malfunction of the clutch that ensures the free movement of the unit in question. Sticking of the relay contact group also leads to the same result. If this malfunction occurs, you must immediately turn off the engine.
Problems with the Priora plant often arise due to ignition failure. In this case, you need to make sure that:
- the coils are securely fastened to the power plant;
- there was no break in the ignition wires in its low-voltage circuit;
- whether the spark plugs are working (if there is no spark, you will need to replace the ignition coil).
And finally, it is impossible to start the engine if there is a breakdown in the power system. You will need to check the air filter. If it is not clogged, you need to inspect the connector contacts in the injection system (do not forget to also look at the fuel pump - if it does not make noise, then most likely there are problems with the electrical network) and make sure that the fuel pressure is normal.
Before performing the steps mentioned above, be sure to disconnect the negative connector on the battery. This should only be done with the ignition off.
Lada Priora (2016). The starter is noisy and rotates unevenly
The starter is noisy and rotates unevenly: the main reasons
1) Broken teeth of starter gears or flywheel
2) The starter mounting bolts are loose
If your car’s starter does not work at all, does not develop the required power and speed, and creates a lot of noise during operation, this is a sign of one of the malfunctions such as:
a) Failure of certain groups of contacts in the ignition system and failure of the entire lock. One of the diagnostic methods is as follows. It is necessary to disconnect the battery, remove the ignition switch and disconnect the wires. Then reconnect the battery and put the car on the handbrake. After this, make sure that the gear shift lever is in neutral and then manually close the starter contacts. In this case, the ignition contacts must be closed. If the car engine started and the starter stopped rotating after that, then the reason was a faulty contact in the ignition switch. Then, it is necessary to replace the ignition switch, or a certain group of contacts.
b) The starter relay armature is stuck. It is recommended to try replacing the starter traction relay assembly.
c) The gear drive lever is stuck. If the jamming cannot be eliminated, the lever itself must be replaced.
d) Lack of free movement of the coupling on the splines due to their contamination. It is necessary to carefully clean the splines from dirt and lubricate them with engine oil.
e) Breakage or disconnection of its retaining ring inside the hub coupling. Replace the retaining ring.
e) Breakage of the return spring. Replace the return spring.
When repairing the starter, you must check whether the drive gear can move freely along the splines of the shaft and drive lever, and also pay due attention to the presence of dirt and grease.
If the starter makes noise when the armature rotates, then the possible causes of this malfunction and methods of elimination are as follows:
a) Damage, wear or breakage of drive gear or flywheel teeth. Replace gear or flywheel.
b) Unacceptable wear of the bushings inside the bearings or support journals inside the armature shaft. If this is the reason, change the bushings.
c) Incorrect (loose or skewed) fastening of the starter, as well as breakage of its cover. You need to replace the cover and then secure the starter correctly.
d) The armature, due to the weakening of its fastening, touches the stator pole. It is recommended to tighten the screw that secures the pole.
Starter clicking
Metallic noise (grinding) when starting the engine with the starter
Bendix bushing wear. Wear of the freewheel shaft bushing of the Bendix. Wear (score) on the flywheel crown. | Liquid ingress and leaching of grease from the bushings. |
Starter clicks when hot, works when cold
Solenoid relay (electromagnet). The brush assembly springs have lost their hardness. | Sticking of the solenoid relay core. Heating of the springs (due to excessive rotation by the starter). |
Other reasons
When starting the engine, something “squeals” in the starter; it doesn’t always start the first time
The starter must be removed and repaired. According to the description of the symptoms, the bendix is faulty (“breaks”) and requires urgent replacement. Otherwise, sooner or later the starter will stop starting altogether, leaving only a “squealing” sound.
In the cold, when starting the engine, something crunched in the starter. You can hear that the starter motor is turning with some extraneous noise, the retractor is activated (the Bendix jumps out), but it seems that the Bendix stands still and does not spin
The teeth of the plastic planetary ring in the starter were “eaten”, since it is in the cold that plastic parts become especially fragile. In the worst case, the shaft of the gearbox itself bursts. Repair is possible in any way
After replacing the Bendix on the starter with your own hands, the car starts with half a turn, but some extraneous noise appears, such as rattling or squealing
Even small, fractions of a millimeter, deviations from the geometric dimensions of the original spare part can lead to similar “sound effects”. In addition, when replacing the Bendix, it would not hurt to immediately change the starter bushings, wear of which can also cause extraneous sounds when the starter operates.”
The starter suddenly began to “crack.” You can hear the Bendix popping out, but then it retracts and pops out again. The car won't start
This type of malfunction is typical when the holding winding of the solenoid relay breaks. The solenoid relay needs to be replaced."
When turning the ignition key, only a click is heard
Most likely, the starter brush assembly has run out of brushes. The same symptoms will occur if there is no contact between the coins and the contact plate of the solenoid relay due to their wear. Finally, a break in the relay winding itself, a break in the armature winding, or a worn or torn commutator lamella can also give a similar effect. In any case, during repairs, faulty components must be replaced with new ones.
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Starter operating principle
This device itself is a conventional electric motor. A gear is installed on it, which meshes with the flywheel, which rotates when the power unit starts. A traction relay is also attached to the housing. The functions of this element include:
- gear movement control;
- starter disconnection.
When the key is turned to the starting position, voltage is supplied to the relay, exciting the electromagnet windings, then the contacts close. At the same time, the gear begins to rotate and the motor starts.
When the key is released, the voltage to the relay windings stops supplying and the contacts separate. The starter is accordingly turned off. This is, in general, the entire description of the operation of the node in question.
Description of the Priorov starter
Before we talk about how to repair a starter, let's get acquainted with the basic description of the mechanism. Let's start with the purpose and location.
Purpose and location
An electric starter is a unit used to convert electrical energy into mechanical energy, which is necessary to start the engine. In fact, this mechanism is an electric DC motor equipped with a mechanical drive. The principle of operation of the device is to close the retractor and retainer coils, as well as move the core, which helps push out the bendix. As a result, the Bendix engages with the flywheel of the power unit, and under the influence of the anchor, this flywheel begins to spin. Accordingly, this leads to the engine starting. In Lada Priora cars, the starter unit is located on the gearbox, under the housing of the engine air filter element.
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Designation of structural elements of the starter assembly
Which starter is better to install on Priora?
Today you can find many models of starters on sale from various manufacturers, but they are all divided into geared and gearless. Both one and the second type have both their advantages and disadvantages. The main advantage of the gearless version is reliability and the ability to repair in case of breakdown, which is due to its fairly simple design. As for the disadvantages, such mechanisms are characterized by high voltage consumption and heavy weight.
Geared devices began to be used relatively recently; the addition of a gearbox to the design made it possible to improve the technical characteristics of the unit as a whole. The main advantage is considered to be higher reliability of engine starting, in particular at low temperatures. This advantage is achieved as a result of increased torque. The electric motor itself is smaller in size, but the rotation speed of the device is higher, and accordingly, less current is required to start the motor. In the production of geared devices, fewer expensive materials are used; accordingly, their cost is an order of magnitude lower than that of gearless ones.
As for directly choosing a starter, in practice geared devices are more reliable and fail much less frequently than gearless ones. But in this case, you need to remember that under no circumstances should you allow the starter mechanism to operate while the power unit is running. This is because the rotation frequency of the armature will be several times higher; accordingly, its conductors can come out of the grooves and touch the stationary components of the device, thus destroying its structure (video author - CompsMaster).
Why may the starter not turn?
If the start occurs in a cold or frosty environment, then several attempts should be made before starting to troubleshoot. In case of a complete fiasco, when when you turn on the relay clicks and the indication on the panel goes out, you need to do the following:
- make sure the battery is charged;
- check whether all the wires coming from the battery are cold - the presence of heating indicates poor contact (the terminals need to be cleaned);
- see whether the battery connectors are securely connected to the ground, and whether it is securely connected to the body of the car (existent contaminants are eliminated);
- make sure that the plus on the starter contact is holding well.
The traction relay is disconnected from the wiring if there is doubt about the normal operation of the ignition switch. Then the key is set to start, and a multimeter is used to check the presence of voltage directly at the removed connector.
When none of the above helps, you will need to dismantle the starter itself.
How to remove the electric starter
The procedure in this case is as follows:
- remove the terminals from the battery;
- the “plus” connector is removed from the starter;
- removed from the relay block;
- The nuts securing the faulty unit are unscrewed.
Then you can safely remove it.
Next you will need to check the functionality of the relay. To do this, take emergency wires to start from another car. The negative one is installed on the battery and on the starter housing. “Plus” is connected to the relay. The latter in this case (if it works properly) is triggered and moves the gear. The absence of this reaction indicates a breakdown of this element.
Problems with a car arise at any time if you do not carry out regular diagnostics and do not prevent the failure of one or another part in a timely manner. Often, car owners are faced with a situation where the starter clicks, but for some reason does not turn on a Priora. The driver hears a characteristic click, but nothing happens (the car does not start). Due to ignorance of the causes and possibilities for eliminating such a problem, many decide to start the car with a pusher or look for other methods. However, as practice shows, other methods turn out to be labor-intensive, complex, time-consuming and not always effective. In order not to waste your own energy and time, you should find out why such a problem occurs and what to do to fix it.
The starter is the main starting unit of the car. Its function is to spin the motor shaft to the starting speed.
Removing the starter
- disconnect the terminals from the battery;
- unscrew the air filter and remove it;
- Unscrew and remove the positive wire from the starter terminal;
- disconnect the connector from the relay;
- unscrew the starter mounting nuts and remove it;
Checking the relay operation
Using emergency wires for “lighting up”, connect the negative wire from the battery to the electric starter housing. Connect the positive one to the relay connector, and it should operate and throw the gear forward. If the result is negative, the relay must be changed.
Checking the operation of the electric motor
By hooking the negative wire to the electric starter housing, and the positive wire to the lower terminal of the retractor relay. The electric motor should start working. If this does not happen, then most likely the motor brushes need to be replaced.
Having examined the reasons why the starter does not turn and the Priora car does not start, we can conclude that the electric starter itself may not always be the cause of the problem. Most often these are bad contacts in the system connections or simply a broken wire.
But if the reason is still in the starter, do not rush to buy a new one. Many faulty parts can be replaced by simple overhaul, saving money. And the old starter will last for a long time.
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Causes and solutions
If the car does not start because the starter does not turn, but makes characteristic clicks, there may be several reasons for this:
- The power wire connecting the relay winding and the starter has burned out.
- The brushes and bushings are out of order.
- The armature is shorted on the winding.
- The winding has broken.
- The fork on the drive is deformed or destroyed.
The cause may also be insufficient battery charge. In some cases, to eliminate this problem, it is enough to charge the battery and try to start the car again. The cause may be jamming of the motor shaft and bushing. It is possible that the rotor caught the “plus” of the stator. It is also possible that the winding is shorting.
Even if the problem is easily and quickly solved, one glance will not be enough to detect it. To understand the reason, you first need to let the car cool down (this requirement is especially important in hot weather).
You will have to remove the clicking starter.
If the problem is with the shaft, it needs to be tightened. It may have malfunctioned. Then the shaft will need to be replaced, after which the starter will continue to function normally. If the bushings are deformed, they will need to be replaced. This happens extremely rarely, so in most cases you will not have to replace the bushing to fix the problem. If the rotor rubs against the stator, the shaft must be aligned. You can determine whether a wire has burned out by the appearance of black spots and a characteristic odor.
Problems with the relay or battery
If, when you try to start a Priora car or a car of another brand, you hear a click, but the starter turns very slowly, you need to clean the nickels. In some situations it may be necessary to solder a new contact layer. If you suspect that the cause is in the motor, you need to close the contacts in the relay. If after this the engine was able to start the first time, look for the cause of the malfunction in the relay. Otherwise, the cause lies in the engine itself.
Often this problem occurs due to a fault in the relay. This is evidenced by the occurrence of several clicks that occur one after another when trying to start the car. If you listen, it becomes clear that this sound is made by a relay. It occurs due to the fact that the starter receives an electrical charge, but the current only reaches the traction relay and does not reach the engine spin-up mechanism. In this case, you can immediately rule out the version of a discharged battery, since due to the low charge, the starter would still be able to turn, but slowly and only a few times.
Starter malfunction
If, when starting the engine, the starter makes one loud click and nothing else happens, in 100% of cases this is caused by problems in the module itself. One click indicates that charge is reaching the starter as the relay clicks. In this case, failure of the relay is excluded. The cause of the problem with the functioning of this module may be an unstable charge that reaches it. In this case, you should try to start the engine again, and repeat attempts at intervals of 20 seconds. Perhaps on the 2nd or 3rd try you will be able to start the car. If the engine still does not start, investigate the following potential causes of the problem:
- the starter bendix has failed;
- the retractor is broken;
- the main winding of the starter is broken;
- winding short circuit;
- brushes and bushings are worn out.
In the latter case, it is only necessary to replace the failed components.
In any case, regardless of the reason why this problem occurred, the first step is to inspect and check all contacts visible from the outside. Often the starter stops performing its functions normally due to weak contact in one or another node. An unstable charge is also a fairly common cause. In this case, you just need to repeat the attempt to start the engine several times. Most likely, after two or three attempts you will be able to start the engine, and a similar situation will not repeat during subsequent starts.
Even if you eventually managed to start the engine after some attempt, you should not consider the problem solved. Otherwise, at some point the car will simply stop starting and you will have to look for alternative ways to start the engine. You should not solve the problem by replacing the starter.
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