Lada 4×4
This is an equally popular model of the domestic SUV from AvtoVAZ. The car is also quite durable, capable of conquering any target. Most of those who own older versions of the Niva claim that cars assembled in the 80s will easily last another 10-15 years.
The modern Niva also has a lot of serious advantages.
- This is a 1.7-liter injection engine with a power of 83 horsepower, the only “but” is that the engine has practically not been modified since its inception.
- Five-speed manual – no complaints here, the gearbox is very reliable, but it does not add dynamics to the crossover.
- The transfer case is made in the form of a manual mechanism, but it works without any problems. Naturally, since this is a crossover, the ground clearance here is also high, but still less than on UAZs.
Which is better, Niva or UAZ? In this regard, the latter wins. But let's return to Niva.
The small wheelbase gives the SUV additional advantages. VAZ also offers a model with five doors, but it is not so popular due to strange settings and the same behavior of the car. The base model is reasonably priced, but it's not the most affordable option.
Interior and luggage compartment
When compared with the SUV before modernization, the updated interior of the Patriot has changed very significantly. Previously, there were many complaints about the low quality of finishing materials and other shortcomings. The manufacturer drew conclusions and tried to correct previously made mistakes.
UAZ Patriot salon
The driver now has a three-spoke multi-steering wheel at his disposal, and the dashboard has become more easy to read and informative. The center console is designed in a minimalist style, while sporting a 7-inch multimedia touch screen. Plus there is single-zone climate control. The front panel was made in the spirit of modern crossovers. But it is important to add that almost all of this is missing in the basic configuration.
The interior of the Patriot is made mainly of inexpensive materials and not the most expensive plastic. But the seats were covered with fabric that was very pleasant to the touch. If you fork out for the top version, the buyer will even get a leather interior.
The interior layout remains the same. It can comfortably accommodate 5 adults. The luggage compartment is also accessible. When traveling, it holds 650 liters of cargo, and with the rear seats folded it increases to 2415 liters.
Having examined the interior that the Patriot offers, you need to take a look at what the Chevrolet Niva has to offer.
Chevrolet Niva interior
The Niva's interior can hardly be called modern and spacious. There is an acute lack of legroom for rear passengers. This drawback is especially pronounced against the backdrop of the Patriot.
The driver was provided with a fairly ergonomic seat, a conventional but comfortable steering wheel, and ergonomic interior space. Extensive glazing provides the important advantage of excellent visibility. In 2014, the Chevrolet Niva received new seats with improved lateral support and headrests.
The trunk here is not bad, considering the size of the car. But in comparison with its competitor it looks downright small. In the standard position of the rear sofa, 320 liters are available. And if you lower the back rows, you get 650 liters. There is no threshold in the trunk, the door opening is very wide, which makes loading and unloading much easier.
Considering the fact that the dimensions of the cars are completely different, it would be unfair to talk about the Patriot’s superiority in luggage compartment and interior space. But the interior design is still better than the product from the UAZ plant. More frequent updates, as well as the desire to impose a fight on foreign cars, forces active modernization. Chevrolet Niva is not one of the key projects, so here the issue of updates is given a minimum of time and effort. Needless to say, if the latest innovations, minor ones at that, were introduced 5 years ago, and the Patriot received a portion of new things literally last 2020.
If you are looking for a car with a modern interior and a huge supply of luggage space, then choose the UAZ Patriot. If the requirements for the back row are not a key parameter, and you do not need to constantly carry a large amount of luggage in the car, the capabilities offered by the Chevrolet Niva will be quite enough for you.
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Chevrolet Niva
- the main advantage of the Niva is its affordable price, compared to other cars in this class;
- ease of maintenance and available spare parts;
- has a reliable suspension;
- bright headlights;
- compact dimensions;
- relatively roomy trunk.
- lack of an ABS system as standard;
- poor engine dynamics;
- Poor quality factory painting of the body and underbody.
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Advantages and disadvantages
Both presented cars have quite a few differences, both in appearance and in driving characteristics. The only thing they have in common is their confident behavior on country roads with poor road surfaces. However, each car has its own strengths and weaknesses.
UAZ Patriot
- high maintainability and perfect ease of maintenance, which does not require specific equipment;
- very high cross-country ability;
- large interior space and large trunk;
- has many additional options;
- relatively low cost.
- rear-wheel drive, which complicates driving on highways in winter;
- excessive suspension stiffness.
Dimensions and body shapes
There are external differences. UAZ has a classic five-door body. “Patriot” is a heavy frame SUV - the weight of the vehicle is more than two tons, and the length is more than four meters.
“Patriot” is more than two meters high. “Niva” boasts much more modest dimensions, but its design is more attractive. The trunk of the UAZ Patriot SUV is also huge; four passengers can fit on the back seat, while only three can sit in the Niva, and even then without much comfort. Those for whom a compact body is important will buy a Niva.
What's the result?
Patriot is not a car for everyone. It is well suited for people who spend a lot of time in nature, away from civilization, or who live in rural areas, where, as in the old joke, the place they intend to travel through is called a road.
UAZ is an ideal choice for hunters, fishermen, and avid tourists. For these categories of consumers, beauty is not important - the most important thing is maneuverability and the ability to grab more supplies for a long autonomous journey.
Chevrolet is suitable for those who live in the city or its environs, have a dacha, or sometimes go to the nearest forest. This car is noticeably more economical and looks quite presentable. Its maintenance is also cheaper. The disadvantage of the car is its small luggage compartment.
Design
If we compare which is better - UAZ or Niva in terms of design, then Niva is much more beautiful and neater. There is nothing superfluous here. The body parts are executed at a high level, there is good light. Many body parts are coated with zinc.
“Patriot” is more solid. But this appearance is only for those who love everything big, angular and bulky. But the bodywork is not so good. The manufacturing quality of body parts is significantly lower than that of the Niva, as noted by reviews.
How to make the right choice?
You can continue to compare these two cars for a long time, but first of all you need to pay attention to your own needs and how comfortable you will feel behind the wheel. The Niva is ideal for novice drivers and those who have to make daily trips around the city and make frequent off-road forays. Patriot will be a good option for those who are used to long journeys and require full autonomy.
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Differences in Specifications
Both presented cars cannot be called racing cars, besides, according to the passport data, the UAZ Patriot is superior in power to the Chevrolet Niva, however, ultimately, they are designed to perform similar tasks, although they have a number of differences.
The UAZ Patriot has two engine options: in the first case it runs on gasoline, in the second - on diesel fuel. The gasoline engine has a volume of 2.7 liters with a power of 128 horsepower, and the diesel unit has a volume of 2.2 liters with a power of 112 horsepower. The Chevrolet Niva has in its arsenal only a gasoline version of the engine capable of producing 80 horsepower. Also, its engine does not have high dynamic performance. But it is worth noting that the device of the Ulyanovsk plant is much heavier than its opponent and cannot use a lower power engine.
The maximum speed that both presented cars are capable of is within equal limits. The maximum speed for the Niva is 137 km per hour. A UAZ Patriot with a diesel engine has a top speed of 120 km per hour, and if it is equipped with a gasoline engine, its speed will increase to 130 km per hour. However, the Patriot significantly improves in power and has more flexible dynamic characteristics.
UAZ "Hunter"
Since the creation of this model, practically nothing has changed in it. The factory did a little work on the design, the interior became more suitable to the modern standard and that was the end of it. But the car received many positive reviews from owners. The engine on this car remained the same, but minor modifications were made.
- Firstly, it is reliability, the classic brutal appearance of a real car for conquering Russian and other off-road terrain.
- Secondly, the car boasts an excellent frame design and high ground clearance, allowing you to move anywhere.
- Thirdly, there are gasoline and diesel engines, but you shouldn’t expect particularly high performance from them. This car, among other things, is an excellent subject for various modifications and improvements, which is done in numerous garages.
Reliability is really high - reviews say. Also, many people buy this car from UAZ for its thick metal body. The car is in demand not only among those who like to knead mud, but also among hunters and fishermen. The car is very comfortable both in dirt and on asphalt, especially considering its price.
Prices and options
But there is interest in it, and after the recent comprehensive modernization, interest in the all-terrain vehicle will certainly increase. Prices for Niva are, of course, lower, and there are as many as seven trim levels - a differentiated approach allows the buyer to choose only the equipment he needs, which is almost completely absent in the basic L version for 563 thousand rubles! There is not even a driver airbag or ABS.
The most expensive LE+ package is estimated at 710.5 thousand rubles, which corresponds to the initial version of the Patroit Classic Fleet (from 746.5 thousand rubles). It includes such benefits as headlights with LED daytime running lights, driver airbag, ABS, front and rear electric windows, electric drive and heated rear-view mirrors, as well as adjustable steering wheel for reach and tilt.
Ride quality and maneuverability
Both cars are not intended for racing. Niva cannot boast of high dynamics - its engine is not designed for racing. However, the car goes through road bumps softly and smoothly, which is good news. But you shouldn’t expect miracles off-road. Therefore, if someone is wondering which is better in terms of off-road capability - the UAZ or the Niva, then there is no need to think - they should take the UAZ.
It's hard to say which is better - Niva or UAZ Patriot. You cannot compare these machines - they are initially different and intended for different purposes. Those who prefer more compact sizes choose Niva. Dirt lovers choose Patriot.
kyzmich
01/25/2009 10:30 I need a car for off-roading, so that it is comfortable and roomy, good cross-country ability..... people tell me what to choose UAZ or Niva.. pros and cons...
mechkoff
01/25/2009 10:41 old patrol.
Authorité
01/25/2009 11:10 Padzherik is old IMHO! just scream555 sells
Sinner_SE
01/25/2009 11:18 For roominess, a Niva is definitely not an option.
kyzmich
01/25/2009 11:19 the old Padzherik eats a lot, but the Patriot is 15, the Niva is 12...and the new one is the new
IPG
01/25/2009 11:24 twice for the shniva
—————— Gnome or KDE?
That is the question! Renegad
01/25/2009 12:16
quote: Originally posted by kyzmich: I need a car for off-roading, so that it is comfortable and roomy, with good cross-country ability.....
Then Patrick. Healthy, roomy and comfortable. It's just a lottery with the assembly.
https://wroom.ru/story/uaz/patriot
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sunych
01/25/2009 12:31
quote: Originally posted by kyzmich: the old Padzherik eats a lot, but the Patriot is 15, the Niva is 12... and the new one is the new one
Padzherik with a 2.5 diesel engine eats little
mobiler
01/25/2009 12:44 topic not covered. if you plan to drive around the city, to the country, or nearby for fishing, then the Niva, it has a monocoque body, fulltime4vd, and more car-like habits. if serious off-road driving is planned, with a heavy trailer on the tail - then a UAZ, frame, heavy, rigidly connected axle. By the way, a cool double cab based on Patrick appeared. IMHO - with both hands on the field
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BlackJack18
01/25/2009 13:15 in the Niva the trunk is small, but in the Patriot it’s wow, plus there’s a lot of space under the seats, on the UAZ the frame is much more reliable than a monocoque body
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dimm
01/25/2009 13:36 The trunk is quite large.
It fits a lot of potatoes, and the gas generator fits in without removing the rear shelf Medvedev
01/25/2009 13:59 If you’re going hunting and fishing, then the shnivy is only 3-rated.
Well, maximum in the 4th, if you put some of the things on the rear passengers. The trunk is very small, the cross-country ability is average... but the comfort is at the level. Our nature is now at least 100 km from the city, so comfort on a long trip is very important. BaNZaY!
01/25/2009 14:55 IMHO shnivy is not worth considering.
Its base is different from that of its parent, and its cross-country ability is an order of magnitude lower. I think the option should be VAZ 21214 and UAZ (patriot or hunter). Niva 21214 (I myself am the owner of one) has awesome cross-country ability and a very small trunk. Only three people are comfortable in the cabin. UAZ, I would buy one, but there are no tasks for it, the cross-country ability is higher than that of a regular Niva, the patriot has a huge trunk, according to reviews from hunters, the old patriots could fold out the seats and arrange a large rookery in the cabin after the hunt, for which they loved it . The new one, they say, does not lower the backrests completely, and because of this it has lost popularity in certain circles. Hunter (if it has a diesel engine) is generally a fairy tale, a dream, so to speak. If we refine it a little more... Eh... Boxer Bill
01/25/2009 15:28 UAZ -Patriot, -complete g...0!
He's been with our company for 1.5 years, and the problems started from the very beginning! Everything that can possibly be poured out is pouring out. It’s not for nothing that our boss calls him not “Patriot”, but “Saboteur”, for his incredible ability to bring “surprises”. The last thing that happened to it was that the front hub fell apart and fell apart along the highway near EBURG. This is with a mileage of 30 thousand km. This service is also crooked - interpartner. In general, NIVA is better! BaNZaY!
01/25/2009 15:42 My Nivka is successfully repaired and brought to life by Uncle Vova (not from the forum), often with his own hands.
Spare parts cost “kopecks,” probably because they cost “kopecks.” By the way, you can also take a “Crocodile” - a long Nyvka-five-door. The trunk there is also huge. The cross-country ability is lower, but the unification of spare parts with the classics gives a chance for VERY cheap repairs. Subarik
01/25/2009 16:50 https://all.auto.ru/cars/used/sale/2639190.html https://all.auto.ru/cars/used/sale/2645391.html https:/ /all.auto.ru/cars/used/sale/2056277.html these are cars, not some shit like Patrick and Chevy.
My father had one like this, the design is indestructible, the comfort is much better than Patrick’s, the reliability is also beyond praise, consumption: gasoline 17-19 liters per 100, diesel 10-12 liters per 100. The choice is of course yours, but if I had such a choice, I I wouldn't hesitate to take the Pajera. Lisinger
25-01-2009 17:36
quote: Originally posted by BaNZaY!: My Nivka is successfully repaired and brought to life by Uncle Vova (not from the forum), often with his own hands. Spare parts cost “kopecks,” probably because they cost “kopecks.” By the way, you can also take a “Crocodile” - a long Nyvka-five-door. The trunk there is also huge. The cross-country ability is lower, but the unification of spare parts with the classics gives a chance for VERY cheap repairs.
+1 for the 5-door, the cross-country ability is lower only where you have to cross large boulders, otherwise the same, the owner himself has one with the 1.8i engine, on the highway it is many times more comfortable than on a short one, 160 goes without much strain. The trunk is huge, but the rear sofa does not fold down very well, leaving a lot of space for the front seats. In terms of spare parts and service, it’s definitely cheaper than Shnivy and Patrick, but in terms of reliability it’s quite good.
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fifty*
01/25/2009 18:07
quote: Originally posted by Boxer Bill: UAZ -Patriot, -complete g...0 ! He's been with our company for 1.5 years, and the problems started from the very beginning! Everything that can possibly be poured out is pouring out. It’s not for nothing that our boss calls him not “Patriot”, but “Saboteur”, for his incredible ability to bring “surprises”. The last thing that happened to it was that the front hub fell apart and fell apart along the highway near EBURG. This is with a mileage of 30 thousand km. This service is also crooked - interpartner. In general, NIVA is better!
Black?
737? mobiler
25-01-2009 18:50
quote: these are cars, not some crap like Patrick and Chevy. My father had one like this, the design is indestructible, the comfort is much better than Patrick’s, the reliability is also beyond praise, consumption: gasoline 17-19 liters per 100, diesel 10-12 liters per 100. The choice is of course yours, but if I had such a choice, I I wouldn't hesitate to take the Pajera.
if we compare the cost of servicing a Niva and a Pajero?
For a nerd, spare parts are as expensive as for an airplane and there are just a ton of birth sores. Synthetic
01/25/2009 19:18 I just wanted to say that they make crap at UAZ (the only complaints are about the quality of units and parts).
The UAZ that we use at work has undergone replacement of almost all units, including a new engine (we had to re-register the sales). And so it’s a car for which you don’t mind gasoline, that’s fine. Subarik
01/25/2009 19:19
quote: Originally posted by mobiler:
if you compare the cost of servicing a Niva and a Pajero? For a nerd, spare parts are as expensive as for an airplane and there are just a ton of birth sores.
As for the problems, there are very few of them, just read the reviews about this car, and the car itself is generally very reliable, you just need to keep an eye on it, but as for the cost, since this is a car of a completely different class than the Niva, then change it You just need consumables and that’s it, there’s practically nothing to break. Choose either to repair the Niva once a month, or the Padzherik once every 2 years.
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of Leshiizles
01/25/2009 19:28 IMHO 21214 rules.
I don’t like the Chevy in terms of cross-country ability, but I don’t like the UAZ in terms of reliability and gluttony (and it consumes about 17 liters per 100) inf1niti
01/25/2009 19:31 I haven’t driven the Patriot.
rode a shnivy. I really liked it. I would take it if I needed a jeep. cross-country ability with good tires will be sufficient BaNZaY!
25-01-2009 21:45
quote: Originally posted by inf1niti: I haven’t driven a Patriot. rode a shnivy. I really liked it. I would take it if I needed a jeep. cross-country ability with good tires will be sufficient
IMHO you just didn’t go to 21214.
After underdrives - the difference is *very* very big ruber
01/25/2009 22:53
quote: Originally posted by mechkoff: old patrol.
where can we get him alive?
quote: Originally posted by AuthoriteT: Padzherik is old IMHO! Rick555 is selling it
His pazherik is good, but he aches for it
quote: Originally posted by kyzmich: the old Padzherik eats a lot, but the Patriot is 15, the Niva is 12... and the new one is the new one
2.5 turbodiesel on 33 mud tires in city-highway-shit mode 12 liters
quote: Originally posted by mobiler: if you compare the cost of servicing a Niva and a Pajero? For a nerd, spare parts are as expensive as for an airplane and there are just a ton of birth sores.
Wow, please tell me about the childhood pains of sports. s? Aeroplane
01/25/2009 23:06 The ShNiva for me has only 2 drawbacks: it’s small, the engine is rather weak. There’s also no automatic transmission, but that’s already out of the equation. I won’t say anything about the Patriot, only about the Hunter. The 2.7i engine is not a piece of shit. There is absolutely no traction at the bottom. Compared with it, the old carburetor UAZ is simply superb in terms of ease of traction control. The Hunters are painted in simple, non-metallic colors, disgustingly, look closely - the matte finish is stained.
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Boxer Bill
01/25/2009 23:10
quote: Originally posted by fifty*:
Black? 737?
no, metallic gray
inf1niti
01/25/2009 23:15
quote: Originally posted by BaNZaY!: IMHO you just didn’t go to 21214
You just don’t need to tell me here what you don’t know. My father has a 21214, and the most infuriating thing about it is that the car was not thought out in advance for injection, which is why the catalyst hangs from the bottom of the bottom. As a result, he suffered many times. Right now they’ve completely broken through and that’s it. It's better hidden in the Chevrolet. therefore the ground clearance is higher. Yes, the base of the Chevy is larger, but this is not very important. And so. Yes, and 21214 is also planted. Every car has its limit. The Chevy has slightly lower cross-country ability but much better comfort inf1niti
01/25/2009 23:17
quote: Originally posted by Lisinger: 160 goes without much effort
160 in her life she will never drive a Chevrolet or a regular one. DO NOT trust the standard speedometer, such a liar. Loafer
25-01-2009 23:24 BaNZaY!
I wonder why the cross-country ability of the shniva is an order of magnitude worse than that of 21214 due to a different base, while the five-door simply has “lower cross-country ability.” The cross-country ability of any field in civilian situations is enough for the eyes. And in terms of comfort and workmanship, the shniva is an order of magnitude higher than a regular cornfield. Although I agree that the 21214 is a great device for fooling around off-road, probably the best for the money, but to drive it every day... inf1niti
01/25/2009 23:28 right now I’ll go on business on the 21214, we’ll see what happens
Vasil
25-01 -2009 23:35 Loafer, read about the concept of geometric cross-country ability, you won’t ask stupid questions.
BaNZaY meant just that. inf1niti
01/26/2009 12:27 geometric cross-country ability assessment
1st place: 21214 short old 2nd place: shniva 3rd places: long old Niva 2131
BaNZaY!
26-01-2009 12:49
quote: Originally posted by Loafer: BaNZaY! I wonder why the cross-country ability of the shniva is an order of magnitude worse than that of 21214 due to a different base, while the five-door simply has “lower cross-country ability.” The cross-country ability of any field in civilian situations is enough for the eyes. And in terms of comfort and workmanship, the shniva is an order of magnitude higher than a regular cornfield. Although I agree that the 21214 is a great vehicle for fooling around off-road, probably the best for the money, but driving it every day...
The shniva is longer, wider, lower IMHO.
For the city and a simple road outside the city, yes, it will completely justify itself. But if you put 21214 and the shnivy next to each other, then: 1) it’s a pity for the shnivy to be scratched or crushed when passing obstacles 2) the shnivy will sit faster in mud and snow, not only does it have a base, but it also weighs more with the same engine, “Crocodile” is just longer, kneads guano in the same way, but there is a high risk of sitting on the slide with your belly. Of course, the best is a UAZ with military bridges, or a homemade one based on a shishiga builder
01/26/2009 09:48
quote: Wow, please tell me about childhood problems with sports. s?
Here somewhere there is Igor three-eight, he took up a new sport so I remember he was not very happy with the sores. ruber
26-01-2009 10:15
quote: Originally posted by builder: There is Igor three-eight here somewhere, he took up a new sport so I remember he was not very happy with the sores.
aha-ha, only then did he admit that he flew into a puddle while braking, after which the brake discs began to spin. As for the stub rubber bands and the fact that they cost 30 rubles, they cost 200 rubles. Before my eyes, the sport lives in the operating mode of 50% fishing 40% highway 10% city... an excellent car for the money. Evgenia Mikhailovna
01/26/2009 10:22 Take shiva, you won’t regret it, I have a dacha in the forest, no problem, in winter and summer.
The most interesting thing is that I’ve been driving for 3 years and have not changed anything except the brake pads and oil. Nowadays they sell so much chrome, you take the basic model and you have a sweetie, even for fishing, even around the city - excellent. I wanted to take PATRIOT, they said how much it eats, I changed my mind. The rear seats in the Shiva fully recline, carry whatever you want, little gazelle. Maltsev Alex
26-01-2009 12:07
quote: Originally posted by Evgeniya Mikhailovna:
malicious offtopic - such an opinion Create a separate topic if you want...
Lisinger
02/07/2009 16:48 why... such a normal city car
Squicker
02/07/2009 17:22
quote: Originally posted by Gypsus:
malicious offtopic - this is the opinion Create a separate topic if you want...
Well, why is it offtopic, most of the spare parts for BARS are from UAZ, including from Patriot. And the last posts with Padzheriks were clearly not about Shnivas and UAZs
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Gypsus
02/07/2009 17:32 Well, this is still a kind of pseudo-scientific fiction, unlike the Pajero, they don’t drive on the streets and are free.
there were no sales in Izhevsk.. PS on the link the price was also announced - 800 thousand. mechkoff
07-02-2009 23:56
quote: Originally posted by Sinner_SE: Although I respect and love Niva, in this case the comparison is not correct. These tires that are on the padzhik are intended for only one thing - to be thrown into a landfill. Any more or less serious travel on them is impossible.
I forgot how I drove in the field almost around your patriot who was also already on dirt tires? and then you went up the hill where they pulled you out on a winch?
conclusion - a Niva with approximately the same wheel size, if there are no ruts or deep snow, will go much further due to its lower mass.
Sinner_SE
02/08/2009 18:24 Regarding the question of what is more passable than the Niva or the UAZ, it seems like it has long been proven both in practice and in theory that they can show themselves for the better and for the worse under different conditions. Of course, where you and I were sitting, the ground was very soft and you won on ease. But don’t forget that you knew where you were going and released the tires in advance, but I didn’t provide myself with this either. If I had 0.3 points in the wheels before descending into the lowlands, it is not yet known how it would have turned out.
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