SPECTROL - is it oil or Vaseline?
The history of getting to know the brand is simple. Back in 2005, I was looking for a job and was invited to a conversation with the president of the ZAO Industrial Group "Spektrol-auto". (last name forgotten) Mikhail Alekseevich. I arrived, met and talked. He and his shareholders were having trouble selling. What questions. I worked on the topic and gave recommendations. Mikhail Alekseevich was not impressed and separated. Anything can happen. People come and go, driven by their own interests. The essence of the proposals was simple: a loan or to go under the wing of a serious company + intensive work with personnel + appropriate marketing and other activities, because, as Eeyore would say, it’s a sad sight. Not the point. He touched me with the fact that the oil, in his words, is the best on the Russian market, that it exceeds the requirements of the relevant standards for these types of oils, that there are imported additives, that they conducted tests on heavily loaded units of walking excavators, where Liquid Moly, Mobile, Lukoil, TNK, BP and other Castrols completely lost it to them. I didn’t like the fact that they didn’t have their own production, they were mixing and bottling in the antediluvian conditions of some kind of “mailboxes” and, what follows from this, there was no production culture and consistency of characteristics more consistent than what comes out of the same BP. Not quality, but rather consistency of characteristics. I started using it actively, well, I liked it, on the one hand, I’m a man, and the prices for Spectrol were among the lowest on the market. Toyota Carina ran 80,000 thousand on Spectrol and did not whine; the engine was in very good condition. I started pouring it now, into Cefira, although finding Spectrol in Moscow has become VERY PROBLEMATIC. Moreover. About 2 years ago I noticed that now the little red Delphine Group icon appeared on the packaging of this oil. So, dear Mikhail Alekseevich, where the hell are you going? Inventing a bicycle in economics is not like spilling oil. Again, not the point. And until the last day I used this oil, until what I told my uncle about a long time ago happened: in a 4-liter canister, 10W30, which I filled for the summer, poured along with the oil into the filler neck of my engine (I poured it myself, that’s why I saw) some black inclusions that had settled on the bottom.
For this I express to Mikhail Alekseevich, whose last name I have forgotten, my sincere “gratitude” and regret that, despite the Delphine Group, just as your Spectrol was made on the knee (before, at least it was well made), it remained so on the knee, but culture and stability of production were and are not there. As before, where the hell can you buy this oil in Moscow (Tver, Nizhny Novgorod, Samara, Kazan, Vyksa, Lipetsk, Voronezh - I’ve been there myself), or canisters made in 2003. 2006, so the hell you can buy it now, even worse. I won’t buy yours anymore, because you are a stupid person, Mikhail Alekseevich, not far-sighted and irresponsible, and my engine is closer to me than the entire Dolphin group taken together is to you.
Without respect, Pavel Valentinovich
Last edited by nvig74; 05/21/2009 at 22:58.
Usually in the first post after such an essay they write “” it happens”)) But really there is nothing to add. Or maybe this is a well-thought-out advertising ploy?)
80 million in one oil change - cool!)) About black inclusions: we must remember that everything in this world is counterfeited!
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Oils intended for use in manual transmissions, transfer cases and drive axles are called transmission oils. Transmission and motor oils have similar classifications. For TM, the main properties are: viscosity characteristics, operational and anti-corrosion properties, as well as lubricity and thermal-oxidative ability.
Viscosity characteristics 75w and 90
According to SAE, TMs are divided into types and, accordingly, their purpose depending on viscosity. Since we will be talking about 75W-90 gear oil, we will first of all look at its characteristics.
75W – this indicator is known as “winter”, it shows the degree of fluidity at low temperatures. The lower the value in front of the letter “w”, the more fluid the transmission is in the cold. For this type of oil, the threshold should be at -40 °C.
The second indicator of the viscosity range is 90 , also called “summer”, indicating the maximum tolerated positive outdoor temperature at a temperature of 100 degrees Celsius. The parameter itself also does not reflect the true value, you just need to know that according to reference data, this threshold will be up to +35 °C.
It would seem that why 75W90 oil is the most suitable for our latitudes , why not create a universal one with an even wider temperature spectrum? But it's not that simple. Protection against friction between gear surfaces directly depends on the lubricity of the gear oil. Although this indicator significantly improves with increasing viscosity, the law of resistance comes into force, and transmission power losses increase due to the waste of energy squeezing it out from under the gear teeth. Also, viscous oil thickens very much in the cold. Less viscous, it feels good at sub-zero temperatures, but has a less durable protective film and worse lubricating properties. To balance these two indicators, special additive packages are also used.
Transmission fluid must perform the following functions:
- exclude friction, jamming, scuffing, pitting (deep metal corrosion) and other damage;
- reduce energy loss and increase efficiency;
- remove heat from friction surfaces;
- reduce noise and vibration during gear operation.
Therefore, TM 75W90 from different manufacturers, of course, is somewhat different in its properties and, naturally, in its price tag. In addition, 75W90 gear oil is often synthetic, although in some cases, a number of manufacturers may indicate it on the label as semi-synthetic. But in fact, it differs from synthetics only in the content of synthetic substances of 20% - 40% and the amount of additive from 2 to 15%.
In addition to the fact that these fluids are classified according to the SAE system, there is a division of transmission oils according to the API system with the index “GL” (in the Russian version - the index “TM”).
Performance properties of TM
The API classification shows a comprehensive assessment of the transmission depending on its performance properties and is divided into six categories. Categories are marked with an index, which makes it possible to understand the scope and level of quality of the product. Today, in passenger car transmissions, only two groups of fluids are used – GL-4 and GL-5 (TM-4, TM-5 according to the domestic classification).
GL-4 (or TM-4) - designed for medium-loaded gears . Used in manual transmissions and mechanisms with spiral bevel gears. The operation of such oils can be carried out in hypoid-type transmissions at significant speeds, but small or moderate torques.
GL-5 (or TM-5) - used for heavily loaded gears . Operation of oil with this standard is carried out in hypoid gears at low torques in combination with high speeds, subject to short-term shock loads. This oil contains a large amount of sulfur-phosphorus containing extreme pressure additive.
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Today, the Spectrol trademark, owned by the international trade and industrial association Delfin Group, is the widest range of all kinds of premium auto chemicals, oils and auto cosmetics - a quality that has won its consumers on both sides of the ocean. The brand's products are manufactured at 3 large production sites (in the USA, Russia and Latvia) and include more than 100 items, many of which have no analogues in the world. The pioneering brand, which began its history in 1987 as the world's first manufacturer of organometallic protective additives, is now, perhaps, the only brand originally from Russia that is actively and successfully developing the American market.
Motor oil Spectrol Turbo Universal SAE 10W-40 Area of application:
Sixth generation all-season semi-synthetic motor oil Spectrol Turbo Universal SAE 10W-40 API CG-4/SJ is intended for all types of highly accelerated engines: multi-valve, turbocharged and electronic injection.
Most suitable for use in DIESEL engines. Temperature range of use: from -30°С to +35°С. Price: 1l - 220 rubles 4l - 890 rubles 5l - 1020 rubles Spectrol Capital SAE 5W-40/5w30 motor oil Scope of application:
Used for gasoline and diesel engines of any modification, incl.
highly accelerated with turbocharging and catalytic converter. It is recommended for both permanent use and for running in a new engine and an engine after a major overhaul. Characterized by high resource and low consumption. Effective when operating the car in city mode (Stop & Go). Temperature range of use: from -35°C to +35°C. Price: 1l.-225 rub.
4l.-920 rub.
5l.-1040 rub. Motor oil Spectrol Dipcourier SAE 10W-50 Application:
Designed for gasoline and diesel engines of “middle” and “old” age, including multi-valve engines with an electronic injection system and turbocharging.
Temperature range of use: from -30°C to +45°C. Price: 1l.-225 rub. 4l - 995 rubles 5l - rubles Spectrol GALAX SAE 5W-40 motor oil Area of application:
Fully synthetic motor oil. Used for forced gasoline and diesel engines operating under harsh operating conditions.
Maintains a consistently high level of engine protection under various operating modes. It has reduced carbon formation and evaporation, and excellent cleaning properties. Temperature range of use: from -45°C to +40°C. Price: 1l - 320 rubles 4l - 1320 rubles 5l - rubles Spectrol Super Universal SAE 20W-50 motor oil Scope of application:
Used for forced gasoline and diesel engines operating in harsh operating conditions.
Maintains a consistently high level of engine protection under various operating modes. It has reduced carbon formation and evaporation, and excellent cleaning properties. Temperature range of use: from -15°C to +50°C. Price: 1l - rub 4l - rub 5l - rub Motor oil Spectrol Global SAE 20W-50 Application:
Partially synthetic motor oil, recommended for use in high-performance gasoline or diesel engines and in turbocharged engines of European, American and Japanese cars.
Temperature range of use: from -30°C to +40°C. Price: 1l - 200 rubles 4l - 815 rubles 5l - rubles
What is the difference between GL-4 and GL-5 75W-90 oils?
As already mentioned just above, the purpose of TM GL-4 (according to GOST 17479.2–85) is for operation in transmissions with bevel and hypoid gears , operating at contact stresses up to 3000 MPa and oil temperatures up to 150 °C. By and large, these are gearboxes of front-wheel drive cars. API GL-5 - ensures reliable operation of hypoid gears operating with shock loads at stresses above 3000 MPa. It is used in gearboxes with hypoid bevel gears and for final drives with cardan drives in drive axles (with limited slip differential LSD). This transmission fluid provides better protection under high load and pressure conditions.
Errors when choosing TM 75W90 and the difference between GL 4 and GL 5.
The key feature is that 75W90 API GL-4 oils contain two times less sulfur-phosphorus additives than similar ones, only of a higher class. Such additives create a special protective coating on parts that prevents wear, but this substance is even stronger than the surface of parts made of copper or other soft alloys. Therefore, using TMs for purposes other than their intended purpose threatens to wear out the surface of an element made of soft metal. So, in those gearboxes where it is necessary to use 75W90 GL-4, and GL-5 is poured, there is a rapid appearance of copper shavings, since the synchronizers are made of copper, and the sulfur-phosphorus additive kills them.
Spectrol Forward SAE 80W-90, GL-5
Spectrol is a Russian trademark. Spectrol brand is to create high-quality lubricants and technical fluids that modern cars cannot do without, including oils. Spectrol oils have been produced since 1987. Spectrol oils, the best imported additive packages Lubrizol and Infinieum are used. In 2005, Spectrol became a member of the International Trade and Industrial Association DELFIN GROUP, which entailed a multiple increase in turnover and opened up new opportunities and horizons. Now Spectrol produces more than 100 types of products intended for motorists: oils, greases, car cosmetics, and a wide range of car filters.
Spectrol oils have approvals from the world's leading car manufacturers such as Porshe, Volkswagen. Recommended for use in VAZ, GAZ, Zaporozhye Motor Plant engines, and Yaroslavl Plant diesel engines. Product characteristics
Spectrol Forward SAE 80W-90, GL-5
Scope of application:
Spectrol Forward SAE 80W-90, GL-5 is a universal mineral gear oil. Spectrol Forward SAE 80W-90, GL-5 is intended for manual transmissions of cars, spiral-bevel gears of rear axles, all-season operation of transmission units of cars and trucks.
Description:
Universal transmission oil
Spectrol Forward SAE 80W-90, GL-5 is intended for gearboxes of all types, except automatic, as well as for leading front- and rear-wheel drive cars of domestic and foreign production, including VAZ 2108 and VAZ 2109. A carefully prepared mixture of base oil Double hydrotreated oils and a specially developed composition of a multifunctional additive package provide Spectrol Forward SAE 80W-90, GL-5 with a number of important advantages: a significant increase in the service life of transmission units, especially parts of helical hypoid and worm gears operating in extreme conditions and with strong vibration;
high stability of characteristics throughout the entire service life under conditions of large differences in temperature and pressure; ensuring excellent synchronization under all conditions when engaging gears; enhanced anti-corrosion properties; inertness to sealing materials, copper and copper alloys; good fluidity in cold weather and optimal viscosity in hot weather; compatibility with mineral gear oils TM5-18 and TAD-17; noticeable fuel savings, for example, for the Lada NIVA model up to 1 liter for every 100 km; extended temperature range of use from -30°C to +40°C. Specifications:
TU 0253-033-06913380-2004 Complies with standards: SAE 80W-90 API GL-5 ACEA
Physico-chemical characteristics:
Technical characteristics: Kinematic. viscosity at 100°C (mm2/s) 13.5 Viscosity index, not less than 100 Pour point (°C) -30 Sulfate ash content, not more than (%) 0.6 Scuffing index (Iz), not less than (kgf) 58 Welding load (Рс ), not less (kgf) 376
Rating of the best gear oils with viscosity 75W90
To build a rating of the best oils, you need to navigate among the following indicators:
- Viscosity _ The oil must maintain optimal viscosity both at low temperatures and maintain its astringent properties at high temperatures;
- Temperature characteristics . Each liquid has its own pour point and ignition temperature, TM should have the largest gap between these indicators;
- Critical load . The higher this number, the better the product;
- Bully index . Unfortunately, there are no standards for this index, but the higher this value, the better the TM;
- Welding load . According to GOST, this value should be no lower than 3,000 H;
- Wear indicator . This criterion is determined only for GL-5 class oil; it should be less than 0.4 mm.
The TOP of the best transmission oils does not take into account their cost, but is given based on reviews and comparative tests.
In many respects, Motul Gear 300 75W90 transmission oil takes first place among all tested. This transmission has the highest protection against scuffing (the index is 60.1), welding, oil film stability without loss of engine power, and an average wear rate (0.75 mm). Although it cannot boast of viscosity characteristics (especially at sub-zero temperatures).
Temperature test of transmission oils 75W90
Second and third places are occupied by transmission fluids from Castrol (Syntrans) and Mobil (Mobilube). Castrol Syntrans Transaxle oil is used in gearboxes, transfer cases and drive axles. It has good low-temperature fluidity, but compared to Mobile, the scuff index is quite high for a liquid of this class, but the wear level is even better than Motul (59.4).
Rating of flushing oils
Based on reviews from car owners, you can make a top list of the best engine flushing oils.
“Gold”, “silver” and “bronze” were received by:
- Lukoil. This fluid cleans deposits well, has anti-wear properties and an optimal set of additives. Many car owners choose this Russian brand.
- TNK-Oil. It is famous among users for its stabilizing qualities, but copes with dirt somewhat worse than Lukoil oil.
- Verylub. It contains a number of additives, including dispersants, which allows for safe and quick engine cleaning.
What to look for when choosing
There can be no clear advice on which oil to choose for cleaning the power unit. You need to purchase the liquid based on its characteristics and the manufacturer’s recommendations, and you should also rely on a review of flushing oils. In addition, each car has individual requirements for these products. For example, a VAZ car requires one fluid, and a Chevrolet requires another. But there is only one general rule: for diesel engines we choose diesel lubricants, for gasoline engines we take gasoline ones. New generation engines require special cleaning products developed in accordance with modern technologies.
ZIC Flush oil has a large set of additives for high-quality cleaning of the engine from dirt and sludge. ZIK helps make the transmission and engine work more efficiently and reduce harmful emissions into the air.
Advantages and disadvantages
ZIC Flushing Oil 4 l is intended for gasoline and diesel engines. It is recommended to use it to clean the engine after switching to another type of oil: from mineral to synthetic or semi-synthetic. It has the following positive qualities:
- safe for polymer elements and seals;
- removes deposits well and cleans stuck rings and valves;
- reduces operating temperature;
- stimulates smooth and quiet operation of the engine;
- retains its properties for a long time.
The disadvantage of the liquid is the large number of fakes on the market.
Packaging and article number
The oil is available in 4 liter containers. Has article number: 606954.
Rosneft
Rosneft Express flushing is made on a mineral basis. Contains detergent additives that will quickly and gently clean the car engine. Used for all types of units.
Advantages and disadvantages
The positive qualities of this liquid include:
- thanks to dispersing additives, they prevent clogging of oil channels;
- removes carbon deposits and dirt deposits well from working surfaces and bearings;
- does not damage seals, reduces the risk of oil leakage.
According to reviews from car enthusiasts, the disadvantage of this product is its weak lubricating properties.
Packaging and article number
Available in a volume of 4 liters, article number 3633688.
Lukoil
Lukoil flushing oil is based on a mineral liquid and a set of detergent components for effectively removing deposits from the internal combustion engine system. It is suitable for use in all types of engines.
Advantages and disadvantages
- quickly and gently cleans all types of engine dirt;
- has good solubility;
- reduces the risk of engine overheating.
In addition to the large number of counterfeit products of this brand, the disadvantages, according to user reviews, include the fact that the oil is too thin. Although some car owners claim that fluidity is within normal limits.